Breeder has asked us not to neuter pup -- advice please?

[gritsar]

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Some people live in the country and that's what they do.

And their dogs usually get shot for it too.

Only people who don't care about their dogs let them roam

I agree with Tala. We live in the country, on 80 acres as a matter of fact; my dogs are still not allowed to roam. If they are outside the yard fence they are leashed. No ifs ands or buts about it.

 

[arabianequine]

I do not let our dogs roam free here either.....we live in the country on 20 acres but some inconsiderate neighbors were here first and let their big dogs run free and will injury if not kill my little wiener dogs.....and they will get lost anyways.

I have a st bernard puppy also and she is not allowed to roam free and won't be when old enough to know this is her home. She is papered and cost a lot of money and I have respect for her and my other dogs and love them all dearly and my pocket book.

Been there done that our two weiner boys got loose one night (we think they were let out no signs of how they got out) not here at my current house but in are previous house and cost me $1200 to fix their injuries and several months later to be fixed and I only got some of my money back. We had a witness watching the worst attack so thankfully I got most of our money back like $900. That dog was Shar pei/chow mix and was taken by animal control and put ni nite....sadly it was allowed to roam freely. This dog also chased kids that got off the bus etc.


Sorry op getting off topic here by us.....

I would at least allow one litter especially if you want another pup....when you do that you usually get pick of the litter.

Also though remember that some of the boyishness behaviors might not be able to be corrected once you neutered him if you decide to later on......that is why it is better to do it when a puppy asap before those behaviors comerse.

 

[bagendhens]

OP sounds like an excelent decision, theres no reason she cant keep frozen from your boy for future use should she want to and that was you can get him neutered as soon as shes all set there

 

[tonkatuff]

I don't know who wrote this article.... http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=1570 but it is filled with more ridiculous BS "old wives" tales than just about anything else you could pull outta your butt or the WWW. I've been breeding & training dogs for 15yrs and have (in my home and kennel) at any given time, 3-4 INTACT males & 5-6 INTACT females. The short & simple answer is TRAIN YOUR DOG & be a respondsible dog owner and then you can't use him having testicles as an excuse for any bad behavior.

 

[babyblue]

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I agree thats a lousy article and just is furthering bad behavior and education. not a single one of my parents females were ever ever fixed. no attitude problems, no fighting, not a single unwanted litter in the 30+ years my parents have had dogs. its all about the training and management the owner puts in, nearly nothing to do with intact animals.

 

[pardygwyn]

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That's pretty much the only reason I breed right there.

To continue to have access to dogs I know I'll like. Have fun with your future pup(s)!

 

[Hennypen]

I think marking depends on the breed as well. My Australina terrier was horrible and marked everything..........and he was housetrained. I had no choice but to get him fixed at 9 months.

I usually wait until the dog is a little older anyway so the plumbing is larger before they're fixed, but he's the only dog I've had a problem with. I think it will be obvious, even as a pup if he's going to be a marker or not.

It is healthier in the end to neuter them, but if he is that nice why not wait and see how he turns out?

That said, who is going to show him and get his championship? That can get expensive. If he is great, he will place at a dog show. Try a show or two and see what the judges say. IMO only champion dogs with all health testing done w/nothing showing up on those tests should be bred.

 

[pardygwyn]

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Show dogs aren't the only breeding-worthy dogs out there.

There are a handful of people who show ES through the UKC, but they're a working breed and proven through multipurpose farm work (herding, guarding, hunting). There's a lot of variety looks-wise in the breed because of this, and it makes it difficult to show them in a looks-driven market. I do agree about the health testing, though! Hip displasia is especially important to test for in this breed, and PennHIP has proven the best tool.

 

[lorieMN]

I agree,,many Ch dogs cannot even do the job they where bred to do...just because they look pretty in the eyes of judges doesnt make them a good breeding dog,labs for one,,many conformation Ch dogs couldnt retrieve all day if there life depended on it,aussie's,many of them that are conformation Ch do not have any herding instinct at all..rough collies,same thing,,

 

[lceh]

Yes, ES are bred to be working farm dogs, not show dogs, so showing's not an issue in this case. We'll definitely look into the hip testing though.