Breeding Easter egger with different breeds

[Laura12499]

I have a white EE rooster that I was going to put into a pen of f1 OE, EE, a cream layer (mixed breed) and some salmon Faverolles. Will the chicks lay blue eggs or is it still a possibility they will lay brown eggs?

 

[nicalandia]

I have a white EE rooster that I was going to put into a pen of f1 OE, EE, a cream layer (mixed breed) and some salmon Faverolles. Will the chicks lay blue eggs or is it still a possibility they will lay brown eggs?

Actually there is a chance 100% of cross pullets lay brown/tinted eggs since the blue egg shell mutation is not a guarantee with EES and since he is a rooster there is no way to know if he has the mutation or not

 

[Amer]

If your male has two copies of blue, you will always get green or greenish blue eggs. If he has one copy, with all of these breeds there is a chance he will produce brown. Or he may have no copies of blue. Then you'd get some green layers from the olive egger and EE crosses, but the majority of the egg layers will be brown layers.

 

[Laura12499]

If your male has two copies of blue, you will always get green or greenish blue eggs. If he has one copy, with all of these breeds there is a chance he will produce brown. Or he may have no copies of blue. Then you'd get some green layers from the olive egger and EE crosses, but the majority of the egg layers will be brown layers.

How do you know If he has 2 copies of the blue? I know he hatched out of a blue egg

 

[Amer]

How do you know If he has 2 copies of the blue? I know he hatched out of a blue egg

While that makes for a greater chance of at least one copy of blue, you still have no way of knowing. He could have 0, he could have 1, he could have 2. He has a fifty to one-hundred percent chance of having 1 though, depending on whether his mother has 1 or 2.

 

[nicalandia]

How do you know If he has 2 copies of the blue? I know he hatched out of a blue egg

You can't...… Does your EE hen has a Pea comb? Do you know if his sire had a Pea comb?.

For example we can extrapolate using Pea Comb-Oocyan Linkage(very tight linkage) on stablished breeds like Araucana or Ameraucana but with EEs is rather difficult because you can't tell if the Pea Comb they have is linked to the Oocyan mutation or from another Pea Comb breed they were crossed with.

If that rooster was an F1 of Ameraucana with non-blue egger with single comb background dame, you can say with high degree of certainty that any pullets that any of his offsprings weather female or male hatches with a pea comb they have 94%-96% chance of inheriting the Blue egg shell mutation(Oocyan O), but on your case it's difficult because he is a EE but be in the look out for those Pea Comb Pullets

 

[The Moonshiner]

Test breed.
Breed him to hens you know don't carry a blue egg gene. Hatch a ton and wait for them to start laying.
If none lay blue or green he doesn't carry the gene.
If all lay blue or green he carries two copies. If some do and some don't he carries one gene.
Just my opinion but be easier to get a known true Ameraucana rooster and scrap the EE from the project.

 

[Laura12499]

Test breed.
Breed him to hens you know don't carry a blue egg gene. Hatch a ton and wait for them to start laying.
If none lay blue or green he doesn't carry the gene.
If all lay blue or green he carries two copies. If some do and some don't he carries one gene.
Just my opinion but be easier to get a known true Ameraucana rooster and scrap the EE from the project.

I definitely agree with you on getting a true amerucana. If I can find one around my area and they weren’t so expensive I would. My main project is breeding my marans, I just wanted to have some different colored chicks but also wanted to see what color eggs they lay. The chicks would still be Easter eggers, correct? Or should I just call them barnyard mixes?

 

[NatJ]

The chicks would still be Easter eggers, correct? Or should I just call them barnyard mixes?

Barnyard Mix would certainly be accurate.
If they lay colored eggs when they grow up, then I think it would be accurate to call also call them Easter Eggers.

I have a white EE rooster that I was going to put into a pen of f1 OE, EE, a cream layer (mixed breed) and some salmon Faverolles. Will the chicks lay blue eggs or is it still a possibility they will lay brown eggs?

If the mother lays blue or green or olive eggs, and the rooster is supposed to be an Easter Egger, then you should get either most or all daughters laying blue (or green or olive) eggs.

From the cream and and brown eggs, you could get all, half, or non of the daughters laying blue eggs (or green or olive.) It depends on how many blue-egg genes the rooster has.

Because you say the rooster hatched from a blue egg, there's a good chance he has at least one copy of the blue-egg gene, but it's not a certainty. And we currently know nothing about what egg color genes he got from his father.

If you want to figure out his genes by checking the egg color of his daughters:
--If he ever sires a daughter who lays not-blue eggs, from any mother, then you know he has a copy of the not-blue gene.
--If he ever sires a daughter who DOES lay blue eggs, from a mother that does not herself lay blue eggs, then you know he has at least one copy of the blue egg gene.
--And if he sires daughters in both categories, you will know that he has one copy each of the blue and not-blue genes

 

[Laura12499]

Barnyard Mix would certainly be accurate.
If they lay colored eggs when they grow up, then I think it would be accurate to call also call them Easter Eggers.



If the mother lays blue or green or olive eggs, and the rooster is supposed to be an Easter Egger, then you should get either most or all daughters laying blue (or green or olive) eggs.

From the cream and and brown eggs, you could get all, half, or non of the daughters laying blue eggs (or green or olive.) It depends on how many blue-egg genes the rooster has.

Because you say the rooster hatched from a blue egg, there's a good chance he has at least one copy of the blue-egg gene, but it's not a certainty. And we currently know nothing about what egg color genes he got from his father.

If you want to figure out his genes by checking the egg color of his daughters:
--If he ever sires a daughter who lays not-blue eggs, from any mother, then you know he has a copy of the not-blue gene.
--If he ever sires a daughter who DOES lay blue eggs, from a mother that does not herself lay blue eggs, then you know he has at least one copy of the blue egg gene.
--And if he sires daughters in both categories, you will know that he has one copy each of the blue and not-blue genes

That helps a lot, thank you.
I do know he came from some hatching eggs from a hatchery. I believe it was Murray McMurray hatchery. Some lady hatched them for her class and she gave me the roosters.