BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[Arielle]

See KathyInmo for dels-- she has been working on a recreation project for some years.

 

[bmvf]

See KathyInmo for dels-- she has been working on a recreation project for some years.

I follow that thread and had a chance at some young birds. However, I've kinda concluded that her current birds are more for the knowledgeable breeder and not for a beginner like me. I am waiting to see if some eggs become available in a few weeks from a source that gjensen recommended.

 

[Turk Raphael]

All about which line!!

Perhaps but I have but one lifetime and while I do love chickens, I can't devote but a few hours a week, looking for that Magic Strain of (fill in your own dual purpose) chicken. My intentions are to stack the deck in my favor this time. I am dealing with a very respectable breeder of Buckeyes and I will support that move until I find that they aren't the real McCoys. I

I still appreciate the Australorp breed for what it is but I owe it no allegiance. Just name one breeder of Australorps that produce excellent meat birds and I'll give them a look-see.

 

[gjensen]

I just ordered some Cornish x's and a few Pioneer birds from Murray hatchery. I want some birds ASAP for meat.

One question I have as I search for good Delawares that I can't seem to locate. If I crossed them with a New Hampshire, can they be sex link? What color would the males be? What breeds could I use with a Delaware to produce a white male?

I told you where some productive Delaware were. Have you tried that yet?

A New Hampshire over a Delaware will produce gold (red) females and silver males. A Delaware over New Hampshires will produce silver males and females. they called that cross Indian Rivers.

 

[LindaB220]

I just ordered some Cornish x's and a few Pioneer birds from Murray hatchery. I want some birds ASAP for meat.

One question I have as I search for good Delawares that I can't seem to locate. If I crossed them with a New Hampshire, can they be sex link? What color would the males be? What breeds could I use with a Delaware to produce a white male?

Male New Hampshire
Female Delaware

 

[LindaB220]

I follow that thread and had a chance at some young birds. However, I've kinda concluded that her current birds are more for the knowledgeable breeder and not for a beginner like me. I am waiting to see if some eggs become available in a few weeks from a source that gjensen recommended.

Ditto on that. The breeder I was going to buy from came out and said it. So I cancelled.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Everyone starts somewhere. I consider myself a beginniner, and yet I am jumping into BUckeyes from a very good source. Terrified I will screw them up. BUt gonna try anyway.

WHat I like about the buckeye is that I can cross strains and get good redults; I have reservations about keeping trios. So I don't limit myself to trios and painting myself into a corner.

 

[gjensen]

I told you where some productive Delaware were. Have you tried that yet?

A New Hampshire over a Delaware will produce gold (red) females and silver males. A Delaware over New Hampshires will produce silver males and females. they called that cross Indian Rivers.

I just read your other post. If you could get both, you would be in good shape. They would compliment each other well. Delaware are projects for this purpose, like all of the dual purpose breeds.

It does not take anyone special to make the selections going forward. It is not as hard as it sounds. I could help by saying what I see.

For the New Hampshire, I would contact Jeremy and ask him if he can hook you up with his F1 crossed (strain) birds. That cross made for some quick growing fryers. They are good layers of big eggs to.

 

[gjensen]

Everyone starts somewhere. I consider myself a beginniner, and yet I am jumping into BUckeyes from a very good source. Terrified I will screw them up. BUt gonna try anyway.

WHat I like about the buckeye is that I can cross strains and get good redults; I have reservations about keeping trios. So I don't limit myself to trios and painting myself into a corner.

I think it is not as easy to mess them up when you hold on to your originals. If you get a Buckeye person to help you pick your keepers from the first batch, and hold on to the keepers for a few years, you will not have gotten any worse off than your start. You can get a feel for it by then. A few generations of watching them grow out and mature, and getting their standard in your head is all it takes.

A beginner can be helped by flock mating. There is more variability, and therefore more room for error.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Thanks George. I appreciate the vote of confidence.

Chris McCathy keeps 3 pens, and he sent me chicks from those 3 pens, with toe punches, so I will know how to go about mating them . I also have a slightly older bird that is unrelated and have it's pedigree written down somewhere.; making for a fourth line.