BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[Beer can]

Hello turk!
Interesting to see Cackle now has their Chantecler's listed with their meat birds.

 

[Kusanar]

Greetings: For those who have sent PMs, I'm having difficulty responding. I've asked for help.

I have further thinned my flock and have total of 28 birds. I still have all but one DC and DC crosses, Chanteclers, NNs and Doms., just fewer of a couple of them.

I ate the smallest Dom. cockerel, keeping the best two, butchered one Chantecler hen, one DC-cross pullet and I will pick four breeding pens from that, having a few

left for replacement.

By June, I'll be outa' here again. Not certain I have Greece out of my system yet. It's hard to get too much of that place.

Sounds like you're going to be having fun. Enjoy your travels and we'll be here waiting to hear about them when you pop in now and again.

 

[DesertChic]

Greetings: For those who have sent PMs, I'm having difficulty responding. I've asked for help.

I have further thinned my flock and have total of 28 birds. I still have all but one DC and DC crosses, Chanteclers, NNs and Doms., just fewer of a couple of them.

I ate the smallest Dom. cockerel, keeping the best two, butchered one Chantecler hen, one DC-cross pullet and I will pick four breeding pens from that, having a few

left for replacement.

By June, I'll be outa' here again. Not certain I have Greece out of my system yet. It's hard to get too much of that place.

Wow! You've been busy!

 

[DesertChic]

So at 6:30 this morning I hear my husband yelling out front of our house. I rushed out to help him, fully armed of course, not knowing what I would find. A bow hunter had decided to shoot a deer that was on our property from his vehicle up on the road. Naturally the deer ran before dying VERY close to our house, so the hunter decided he would just trespass on our land to get the deer...apparently never thinking that he should at least ask for permission. NOT a good idea.

After a brief exchange my husband allowed him to come onto the property to retrieve the deer since it was now dead, we didn't want the meat to go to waste (he had to go to work and there's no way I'd clean that thing on my own), and we didn't want it to rot on our land and draw predators. The deer died just below where I keep all of the chickens, and this idiot wanted to gut the deer right there. Right, because bloody entrails would never draw predators that may then decide that a chicken dinner sounds good too. Not gonna happen!

We made him drag that carcass mostly up hill across all five acres of our land. It took him nearly an hour to get it back to his truck. Then my husband made a call to AZ Game & Fish. The first person he spoke to suggested the guy had a right to be there if we didn't have a sign saying the land wasn't a hunting area. Um...the three houses on the property should be evidence enough of that, and there are laws prohibiting him from shooting from the road and shooting anything within a quarter mild of an occupied building. After talking to someone smarter an investigation has been launched.

As if it's not hard enough fighting off predators around here. Now we've got idiotic bipeds trying to draw them in closer.

 

[bnjrob]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertChic

So at 6:30 this morning I hear my husband yelling out front of our house. I rushed out to help him, fully armed of course, not knowing what I would find. A bow hunter had decided to shoot a deer that was on our property from his vehicle up on the road. Naturally the deer ran before dying VERY close to our house, so the hunter decided he would just trespass on our land to get the deer...apparently never thinking that he should at least ask for permission. NOT a good idea.

After a brief exchange my husband allowed him to come onto the property to retrieve the deer since it was now dead, we didn't want the meat to go to waste (he had to go to work and there's no way I'd clean that thing on my own), and we didn't want it to rot on our land and draw predators. The deer died just below where I keep all of the chickens, and this idiot wanted to gut the deer right there. Right, because bloody entrails would never draw predators that may then decide that a chicken dinner sounds good too. Not gonna happen!

We made him drag that carcass mostly up hill across all five acres of our land. It took him nearly an hour to get it back to his truck. Then my husband made a call to AZ Game & Fish. The first person he spoke to suggested the guy had a right to be there if we didn't have a sign saying the land wasn't a hunting area. Um...the three houses on the property should be evidence enough of that, and there are laws prohibiting him from shooting from the road and shooting anything within a quarter mild of an occupied building. After talking to someone smarter an investigation has been launched.

As if it's not hard enough fighting off predators around here. Now we've got idiotic bipeds trying to draw them in closer.

I'm ****** off just reading what happened to you!

 

[GabrielBane]

I would be FUMING if I were you. Hope that investigation ends in a fine or suspension of hunting license. the lack of common sense people have is astounding.

 

[Beer can]

I don't know Arizona law but here it is illegal to shoot gun or bow 500' from any dwelling, house shed or barn (unless you have permission or the land owner doesn't care, ie neighbors etc) Shooting from a vehicle or on the road or across a road also illegal. If just off the road it is OK but 'road hunting' is unethical to most hunting purists. I'll admit I have taken a couple that way but was not road hunting just taking a opportunity that was presented :-D
And was not on someone's private property.
I'd a made him take it ungutted. I've done a couple in my garage when the temp outside is below zero and windy, close to dark. Not the conditions that I'd want to have my arms bare elbow deep in blood. Normally I hang a deer with a gambrel by it's hind legs. Hung by the neck though to gut very easy to catch all of it in a large heavy garbage bag easy to dispose or in my case just onto a tarp, froze solid by morning and easy to dispose of the hunk.

 

[BlueBaby]

So at 6:30 this morning I hear my husband yelling out front of our house. I rushed out to help him, fully armed of course, not knowing what I would find. A bow hunter had decided to shoot a deer that was on our property from his vehicle up on the road. Naturally the deer ran before dying VERY close to our house, so the hunter decided he would just trespass on our land to get the deer...apparently never thinking that he should at least ask for permission. NOT a good idea.

After a brief exchange my husband allowed him to come onto the property to retrieve the deer since it was now dead, we didn't want the meat to go to waste (he had to go to work and there's no way I'd clean that thing on my own), and we didn't want it to rot on our land and draw predators. The deer died just below where I keep all of the chickens, and this idiot wanted to gut the deer right there. Right, because bloody entrails would never draw predators that may then decide that a chicken dinner sounds good too. Not gonna happen!

We made him drag that carcass mostly up hill across all five acres of our land. It took him nearly an hour to get it back to his truck. Then my husband made a call to AZ Game & Fish. The first person he spoke to suggested the guy had a right to be there if we didn't have a sign saying the land wasn't a hunting area. Um...the three houses on the property should be evidence enough of that, and there are laws prohibiting him from shooting from the road and shooting anything within a quarter mild of an occupied building. After talking to someone smarter an investigation has been launched.

As if it's not hard enough fighting off predators around here. Now we've got idiotic bipeds trying to draw them in closer.

My hubby said that he also talked to someone he knows in the AZ Game and Fish, and the guy told him that as long as you do not have a sign posted on your property that says: No Trespassing No Hunting" that they can do it. (Something about the law). Gary said that the law for archery differs from the gun law.

 

[Beer can]

I see they have changed the law in 2011 that now requires landowners to 'properly' post their land. It states also that "State law already prohibits discharging a firearm while hunting within a quarter mile of occupied buildings." that's quite a bit further out than our 500'. Not completely sure if this includes a bow but it does here.

 

[Beer can]

Oh, and taking deer by aid of motor vehicle, and they include 'road hunting' even if the person steps away from the vehicle and off the road is illegal in Arizona.