I am going to speak frankly. That is how I speak, and this is by no means a criticism of you or anyone else. This is just a hobby. I have shared what I have based on the title of the thread. That has been my mindset. My view of what that means is obviously different. My interests are different. Not better, just different. Frankly, I am only wasting a lot of time. I think that I have contributed as much as I can. You have an interesting goal. I hope that you are successful, and that you enjoy the process. You should chart your process and progress and make that a contribution to this thread. I am sure that will be interesting to some. Concerning your comments performance/waste, you will find that for your goals the comments are still relevant. Because you have an actual goal. Not an idea, a goal. If you continue with it for any length of time, that is if you enjoy the process enough, you will find yourself eliminating waste. You will make improvements, and some of it will be instinctive. You will find yourself trying to get better at it, and getting your birds better for it. That is eliminating waste, and pushing to get more efficient. The point is equally applicable here. Just because the goal is capons, does not change anything. That is if you are breeding the birds to be capons. My response to your response, LOL, is that you did not think about how the comment applied to you. Instead, you dismissed it as not applying to you.