BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by hellbender, Dec 27, 2013.

  1. dfr1973

    dfr1973 Songster

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    I am doing Gold-Laced Wyandottes, and Angela (neopolitancrazy) is working with Blue-Laced Red Wyandottes now. I am the crazy one combining black phase BLRWs who are very typey and large and meaty with hatchery stock GLWs for egg production and coloring. The breeder I am getting the black phase BLRs from is cpartist here on BYC and she has lovely LARGE birds.
     

  2. Our Roost

    Our Roost Songster

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    What you are really looking for is the perfect chicken in your own mind. I have had silver laced wyandottes before. I wanted golden but they were sold out . Mine were hatchery stock. They are noted to be a dual purpose bird but I found they were better at laying than tasting. I had read somewhere that the goldens were a nice roaster bird. I had to clip their wings because they are a bit flighty and I would find them fence sitting overlooking the run area. You will have to experience them yourself and make up your own mind. You may like them, I did not.
     
  3. I agree. I had gold-laced Wyandottes from a Canadian hatchery & the cockerels were the best roasters of all the hatchery birds I ever raised.
     
  4. hellbender

    hellbender Crowing

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    IF I were you, I'd not be too quick to discount the birds you have with feathered shanks. Eventually, I'll persuade you to cross your NN hens with Buckeye cockerels. You will have good layers and delightfully flavored, fully bodied meat birds too.[​IMG]
     
  5. millbrookfarm

    millbrookfarm In the Brooder

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    I think I'm going to have to get some of these bielefelders. People keep mentioning them to me.

    They look like they fit the bill but for the coloring aspect but something that I might be able to change if its not variable enough.

    Plus I don't think there is a breeder nearby which might give me a corner on the local market.

    So you are saying if I cross them with another breed or just a non standard color of biels I'd get a lot of different colors?
     
  6. millbrookfarm

    millbrookfarm In the Brooder

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    You are right it my perfect breed for me not perfect for everyone.
     
  7. millbrookfarm

    millbrookfarm In the Brooder

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    I'm trying to keep that in mind; each bloodline can almost be a different breed. Whichever breed or breeds I pick I need to choose bloodlines hitch reflect my purposes. Part of the reason that I haven't focused on Wyandotte or orpingtons since most of there selection has been for te show ring and nt necessarily for production though I'm sure someone out there is selecting for production.
     

  8. DesertChic

    DesertChic Crowing

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    LOL! You really don't have to work that hard at persuading me. Buckeyes are on my "want" list. [​IMG]
     
  9. Kev

    Kev Crowing

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    I am not familiar with the breed either, the only reason I mentioned them as they came up several times and their color genetics potentially would give you a fair bit of color diversity.

    As far as I know, biels come in one color only. It's the barring that can make a rather big difference in appearence in mixes. Outcrossing to a silver will add even more color variety- down the line this would throw biel pattern except in b/w, biel without barring in both gold and silver and if you use a silver with pattern genetics not found in biels, the patterning will be very variable- such as the extra pattern genes in any laced birds, even spangled, pencilled will add a lot of pattern variety but the laced has the most 'extra genes'.

    So if you end up being attracted to biels and still want color variety, something like a silver laced wyandotte, orpington, laced whatever probably would make you happy, color wise.
     
  10. bnjrob

    bnjrob Crowing

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    Man, you dodged the bullet on losing birds for sure. Good thing they were turkeys and not bantam chickens trying to hold that tractor down.

    After we made our first one that was so big and heavy, we wanted to go lighter, but so many people in our area had lost birds and houses because of normal winds that we have all the time or with our usual thunderstorms, that safety was a huge concern for us if we tried to build lighter housing. In the end, we decided that we'd rather have heavier housing than lose birds. The a frames we build now are lighter than our other designs, but they are still made with 2x4 lumber and pretty heavy, while the wide base makes it easier for even the small pens to stay put in the wind. Around here, it we don't even need a storm to send things flying across the pasture. A normal windy day with 30-40 mph winds when a cold front is moving in or a warm front coming up from the Gulf is enough to do plenty of damage if we let it.
     

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