BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[JRNash]

It takes a special kind of stupid IMO to RELOCATE poisonous snakes.unless they are going to the burn pile.

 

[ronott1]

It takes a special kind of stupid IMO to RELOCATE poisonous snakes.unless they are going to the burn pile.

It is similar to moving toxic waste to some place else isn't it? (the post was referring to the State where hellbender lives moving snakes for a new free way).

Sadly I heard a news story about a town that accepted coal waste for money. Now the town has to live with the consequences and the Town Fathers are trying to figure out another land fill to take in more toxic waste.

 

[hellbender]

It takes a special kind of stupid IMO to RELOCATE poisonous snakes.unless they are going to the burn pile.

Well, they surely moved them in bunches. As I said, I used to hunt and catch them alive for spending money but that's even been outlawed...for about 10 or 15 years.

This is a 'rumor' that the WV Dept. of Natural Resources will neither affirm nor deny, but a number of rattle snakes were said to have been traded for western mountain lions...pumas or whatever you want to call them. True or not, the number of sightings of the big cats have increased exponentially.

 

[gjensen]

It takes a special kind of stupid IMO to RELOCATE poisonous snakes.unless they are going to the burn pile.

I have a long running interest in herpetology. For much of my life, I have maintained a collection of venomous (not "poisonous") snakes. I had an extensive collection of the genus Crotalus. I minored in misc. vipers, and elapids. I had a couple Nile Crocodiles that I hatched and raised into adulthood.

I would not recommend the location of an animal of this sort, except in the case of the informed. Not just because someone thinks they know. There is a lot to consider. Moving animals can involve the spreading of disease etc. It would not make much sense to move a problem animal to a place where it would be a problem again etc. Not to mention that it is not a good idea for someone to handle a potentially dangerous animal unless they were experienced enough to do it safely.

All of that said. It can be done safely and responsibly. When it can be, it should be. Unfortunately it is rare for anyone to be knowledgeable and experienced enough to do it, however. Also unfortunately, it is sometimes the best option that the animal is safely euthanized.

 

[gjensen]

I posted this on another thread but decided to move it over here.




I don't know about snakes being territorial or not, except for where they happen to find themselves at any given moment but I do know that WV DNR has moved thousands of them (timber rattlers) over the last 15 years, making room for the un-godly corridor H project, linking the central part of the state to the filth and masses of Baltimore and DC.

EDIT: Ok, I'll add this. That project and other circumstances has helped propel our push to extreme self sufficiency, and to maintain a serious kennel full of savage dogs of potent size and fearlessness. Other considerations have been made that I'll not elaborate on...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_48

Timber Rattlesnakes are rather benign. They have relatively inoffensive temperaments.

 

[hellbender]

Timber Rattlesnakes are rather benign. They have relatively inoffensive temperaments.

Totally agree.

I'm not concerned with the snakes or their removal...but rather the super highway that leaves our area open to folks who wish to escape the Urban Jungles of the major population centers during times of political or social unrest, hardly to mention ever increasing prospects of wars of some sorts on our mainland.

Let me reiterate...the snakes were moved to take them out of harms way, as the highway was being blasted through the roughed highlands of this state. Some were suspected of being traded to other states and the majority of them were moved to equally or even more difficult country with plenty of safe prospective den sights on Elk Mountain, Sharps Knob and several other locations that are extremely rugged but not likely to have a highway blasted through at any time in the near future.

 

[JRNash]

Gjensen, we agree to disagree on this topic. Recently a spectacled cobra killed it's owner and escaped in the dallas area. As far as i know its still loose. Zoos loose control of animals all the time and they have vast resources. IMO there is no justification for private citizens to have animals in their possession that are such a danger to the public. Animals follow their nature.IMO that's where they belong. I DON'T go around killing every snake I see. AS LONG AS I SEE THEM. From the comments I've read I know YOU are NOT one of the nut jobs. IMO there are too many irresponsible people with access to exotic wildlife often with fatal consequences

 

[hellbender]

It is similar to moving toxic waste to some place else isn't it? (the post was referring to the State where hellbender lives moving snakes for a new free way).

Sadly I heard a news story about a town that accepted coal waste for money. Now the town has to live with the consequences and the Town Fathers are trying to figure out another land fill to take in more toxic waste.

I suppose if one is lucky, he gets what he pays for.

 

[JRNash]

Yep

 

[DesertChic]

I posted this on another thread but decided to move it over here.




I don't know about snakes being territorial or not, except for where they happen to find themselves at any given moment but I do know that WV DNR has moved thousands of them (timber rattlers) over the last 15 years, making room for the un-godly corridor H project, linking the central part of the state to the filth and masses of Baltimore and DC.

EDIT: Ok, I'll add this. That project and other circumstances has helped propel our push to extreme self sufficiency, and to maintain a serious kennel full of savage dogs of potent size and fearlessness. Other considerations have been made that I'll not elaborate on...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Route_48

The city folk in Tucson call to have the Diamondbacks removed from their yards, and animal control has a habit of releasing them down here where I live. Not good! We had to lodge formal complaints to get them to stop. Their initial response was, "We didn't realize so many people lived down that way since you have such large parcels of land." Seriously? All the cars driving by weren't a hint? Or the school buses? I guess that's why they began releasing at odd hours of the day and night.

Anyway...we've had one Black King snake living behind my wood shop that I left alone because he ate the rattlesnakes. I think he might have moved on though because the prairie dogs are suddenly moving into my backyard where the chickens range.

I guess I need to go back to worrying about rattlesnakes.