BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

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  Based upon the way the young lady sounded, I'm old enoough to be her grand pappy plus...I didn't want to say or do anything to rock the boat, once I got it moving up-stream!  

 

[hellbender]

Please believe me, the first 10 minutes of my struggle was truly like paddling up stream. Even the one gal who helped me took every ounce of gall or chutzpah to get warmed up to the game. It began by her telling me that she could not give me any information for the product I was inquiring about because the formulation was strictly for cattle...I then maneuvered her into a game of 20 questions and by then, she was beginning to take pity on me and started giving hints that finally boiled down with....Well, if a cow weighs 22 pounds, one mil would be the correct dosage to cover our therapeutic index.....and she finally let her hair down and felt comfortable that I was not going to try to go into the chicken worming business on a national scale but was only interested in dealing with about a half gallon of this stuff that I had left over. I do think she checked the supplier's log where I bought it with my name...they can do that now, with a stroke of a key.

Oh...I didn't tell her I had a half gallon of it....Only a bit in the corner of a bottle...about one cup...

EDIT: FYI...the cost of this stuff is (was) just at $600 bucks for the 10 liter container and the injection pump. Sounds expensive but it really did the job on the cattle. If it don't kill or harm my 'trial chickens' and is as effective on them as on cattle....I'm in the cat bird seat but the stuff doesn't kill tapes so I will always check stool before I do anything....My primary use for the product is the creepy crawlies on the outside but if it takes care of most of the internal horrors.....so much the better!

 

[DesertChic]

Well....I'm butchering my Dorking-ish cockerels today and tomorrow. I wanted to let them grow out a bit longer to get meatier, and had hoped to even caponize them, but they're just proving too difficult to retain. Flighty doesn't even begin to describe their weird personalities, and if a fly farts near them they freak out, feathers flying everywhere, as they frantically climb the walls to get away. They're only 15 weeks old but will hopefully be meaty enough for my friend/employee to BBQ up for my employees this next week....each of us getting half a chicken.

*Sigh* This has definitely been a disappointing experiment, but at least I should get some good BBQ outta it. And I'll have an open pen to use for my other breeding projects. I'll still be practicing my caponizing technique on their carcasses (my first trial was disappointing to say the least) so this has been a learning experience all the way around. I'm hoping that once I get over my disappointment I'll be able to look back on this, smile and realize that things turned out for the better as a result.

 

[ronott1]

Well....I'm butchering my Dorking-ish cockerels today and tomorrow. I wanted to let them grow out a bit longer to get meatier, and had hoped to even caponize them, but they're just proving too difficult to retain. Flighty doesn't even begin to describe their weird personalities, and if a fly farts near them they freak out, feathers flying everywhere, as they frantically climb the walls to get away. They're only 15 weeks old but will hopefully be meaty enough for my friend/employee to BBQ up for my employees this next week....each of us getting half a chicken.

*Sigh* This has definitely been a disappointing experiment, but at least I should get some good BBQ outta it. And I'll have an open pen to use for my other breeding projects. I'll still be practicing my caponizing technique on their carcasses (my first trial was disappointing to say the least) so this has been a learning experience all the way around. I'm hoping that once I get over my disappointment I'll be able to look back on this, smile and realize that things turned out for the better as a result.

Dorking crossed with Australorp makes good meat hybrids--The hens lay fairly well too.

The Australorp helps with their behavior too.

 

[dfr1973]

I forgot to mention: Monday, my neighbor found her "missing" hen setting a clutch of eggs. I brought over hatching eggs, and she swapped them for the ones the hen had. So there is a hen next door setting 8 GLW eggs (Tiny and the Flashy Girls!

) and three from broodies (1 Wheaten Ameracauna, 2 black bantam/Polish) in hopes of getting broody daughters to set more eggs. My Silkie featherdusters still have a couple more months before they reach PoL, but I expect them to gather golf balls to set around January. If only I could train them to run around the baseboards in the house ... they are certainly poofy enough to dust for me.

 

[hellbender]

I forgot to mention: Monday, my neighbor found her "missing" hen setting a clutch of eggs. I brought over hatching eggs, and she swapped them for the ones the hen had. So there is a hen next door setting 8 GLW eggs (Tiny and the Flashy Girls!

) and three from broodies (1 Wheaten Ameracauna, 2 black bantam/Polish) in hopes of getting broody daughters to set more eggs. My Silkie featherdusters still have a couple more months before they reach PoL, but I expect them to gather golf balls to set around January. If only I could train them to run around the baseboards in the house ... they are certainly poofy enough to dust for me.

Then you'll need to borrow my daughters's dog to run around behind your 'feather dusters' to lap up the chemically changed 'dust'. He's not the first dog I've had to engage in this sort of thing but he will never give me KISSES again!!!

 

[JRNash]

Well....I'm butchering my Dorking-ish cockerels today and tomorrow. I wanted to let them grow out a bit longer to get meatier, and had hoped to even caponize them, but they're just proving too difficult to retain. Flighty doesn't even begin to describe their weird personalities, and if a fly farts near them they freak out, feathers flying everywhere, as they frantically climb the walls to get away. They're only 15 weeks old but will hopefully be meaty enough for my friend/employee to BBQ up for my employees this next week....each of us getting half a chicken. 

*Sigh* This has definitely been a disappointing experiment, but at least I should get some good BBQ outta it. And I'll have an open pen to use for my other breeding projects. I'll still be practicing my caponizing technique on their carcasses (my first trial was disappointing to say the least) so this has been a learning experience all the way around. I'm hoping that once I get over my disappointment I'll be able to look back on this, smile and realize that things turned out for the better as a result. 

I HATE FLIGHTY BIRDS

 

[DesertChic]

Dorking crossed with Australorp makes good meat hybrids--The hens lay fairly well too.

The Australorp helps with their behavior too.

LOL! Too late! I culled all my boys before reading this. The girls are still alive though. I plan to let them mate with my NN Turkens, my Bielefelders, and maybe a few other boys that are growing out....just to see what comes of the cross. I have some young barnyard mixes that are 10-weeks old today and I'm really impressed with their hardiness, vitality and rapid growth rates. Even my Barred Rock over Buff Silkie crosses are impressive, and I never expected that to happen.

 

[doubleleft]

Please believe me, the first 10 minutes of my struggle was truly like paddling up stream.  Even the one gal who helped me took every ounce of gall or chutzpah to get warmed up to the game.  It began by her telling me that she could not give me any information for the product I was inquiring about because the formulation was strictly for cattle...I then maneuvered her into a game of 20 questions and by then, she was beginning to take pity on me and started giving hints that finally boiled down with....[COLOR=EE82EE]Well, if a cow weighs 22 pounds, one mil would be the correct dosage to cover our therapeutic index.....[/COLOR]and she finally let her hair down and felt comfortable that I was not going to try to go into the chicken worming business on a national scale but was only interested in dealing with about a half gallon of this stuff that I had left over.  I do think she checked the supplier's log where I bought it with my name...they can do that now, with a stroke of a key.

Oh...I didn't tell her I had a half gallon of it....Only a bit in the corner of a bottle...about one cup...e  

[COLOR=0000CD]EDIT:  FYI...the cost of this stuff is (was) just at $600 bucks for the 10 liter container and the injection pump.  Sounds expensive but it really did the job on the cattle.  If it don't kill or harm my 'trial chickens' and is as effective on them as on cattle....I'm in the cat bird seat but the stuff doesn't kill tapes so I will always check stool before I do anything....My primary use for the product is the creepy crawlies on the outside but if it takes care of most of the internal horrors.....so much the better![/COLOR]

That's good info , i wrote this one down down (Thanks)

 

[Beer can]

I HATE FLIGHTY BIRDS

Flighty birds, lay great evade predators hustle grub. When it comes time and you can't catch them pellet rifle works. One pop to the head puts them down stiff. They still bleed out cause they don't kick and thrash until you cut the head off.
I would rather not have flighty birds though.