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[collie1470]

I can believe it. There are many mixes that produce dogs that just look like pits, mostly because "pit bull" is such a widely used term that describes several breeds. He looks more Staffy Bull than APBT to me, with the shorter legs and thicker body....since APBTs are typically thinner with longer legs and a less bulky head.

But, when you talk mixes, you never know what traits they'll get from what breed XD Part of why they're so fun, I think. Either way, he is gorgeous....I love the big head

 

[collie1470]

He does look similar to a Rottie mix I used to know (who I know for sure was a Rott mix, since I knew the mother, who was pure Rott). He was also all black. It's not too unusual to see dogs that should be black and tan completely black. I don't know about Rotts, but I know the occassional all black doberman pops out of black and tan parents. Some form of melanism, maybe?

 

[hellbender]

He does look similar to a Rottie mix I used to know (who I know for sure was a Rott mix, since I knew the mother, who was pure Rott). He was also all black. It's not too unusual to see dogs that should be black and tan completely black. I don't know about Rotts, but I know the occassional all black doberman pops out of black and tan parents. Some form of melanism, maybe?

His head and tail surely look enough like a Rottie had a 'hand' in it...lol I like him more all the time but I know there's still time for bad habits to manifest themselves...not a chewer (big surprise) but I still wouldn't leave him in the house or vehicle unattended.

 

[hellbender]

You sure he has any rottie in him at all? He just looks like pit or some kind of "american bully" mix to me... but what do I know. Anyway he does look like he would be good for weight pulling contests. Better yet put him to work and have him do something useful. You could have him pull or carry things around the yard, like logs. Actually, that is why rottweilers had their tails docked originally- they were carting dogs, the docked tail was to prevent injuries from the tail getting caught in the cart.

There's a reason the dog is sometimes called the poor man's horse.


Modern day:


And found this one too, thought it was funny.

ACTUALLY.....the tails were docked because it helped them with the taxes...no taxes for working dog.

EDIT: We used to breed and handle Rotties at AKC shows. In fct, I was a professional handler for several years so I know a bit of history of several working and herding breeds and my specialty in American Rare Breed Dog Shows were Hounds and Catahoulas.

 

[DesertChic]

His head and tail surely look enough like a Rottie had a 'hand' in it...lol I like him more all the time but I know there's still time for bad habits to manifest themselves...not a chewer (big surprise) but I still wouldn't leave him in the house or vehicle unattended.

Whatever mix he is, he's a beautiful dog!

 

[Beer can]

hellbender, buddy of mine yrs ago parents had a 3/4 rottie 1/4 pit, and his grandmother had the brother. Both were huge, as big as any rottie and looked like one. They had no tan markings. They had a little female Boston Terrier that would tear both of them up like a little bumble bee, it was pretty funny.

 

[HeritageGoose13]

ACTUALLY.....the tails were docked because it helped them with the taxes...no taxes for working dog.

EDIT: We used to breed and handle Rotties at AKC shows. In fct, I was a professional handler for several years so I know a bit of history of several working and herding breeds and my specialty in American Rare Breed Dog Shows were Hounds and Catahoulas.

Really? Interesting.

 

[hellbender]

You sure he has any rottie in him at all? He just looks like pit or some kind of "american bully" mix to me... but what do I know. Anyway he does look like he would be good for weight pulling contests. Better yet put him to work and have him do something useful. You could have him pull or carry things around the yard, like logs. Actually, that is why rottweilers had their tails docked originally- they were carting dogs, the docked tail was to prevent injuries from the tail getting caught in the cart.

There's a reason the dog is sometimes called the poor man's horse.


Modern day:


And found this one too, thought it was funny.

Based upon the writing, the dogs in the top picture seem to be the forerunners of the Bouvier de Flanders...another good working/herding dog.

 

[hellbender]

Really? Interesting.

Well you are correct too...the tails were docked short to prevent them getting caught in spokes...etc but some were just 'tipped' or cht half way to insure the tax benefits.

Darn...yet another edit: I have serious doubts that Ike has any
American Bully in him because he is just too agile. I've seen 'American Bullys" and I love them but they are just too muscle bound and liable to lay around...unlike the American Pitbull that will spin like a top and land on one foot if it wants too. Great breed of dogs...perhaps the greatest but I couldn't use them around here due to their proclivities to dog on dog violence. Ike, what ever his true 'pedigree', and even at a tender age is not happy to see or be near any other dogs....not even the females..of course, he hasn't been close enough to our bitcheeees to scent them and as far as I know, none are in season now.

 

[Ifish]

Well you are correct too...the tails were docked short to prevent them getting caught in spokes...etc but some were just 'tipped' or cht half way to insure the tax benefits.

Darn...yet another edit: I have serious doubts that Ike has any
American Bully in him because he is just too agile. I've seen 'American Bullys" and I love them but they are just too muscle bound and liable to lay around...unlike the American Pitbull that will spin like a top and land on one foot if it wants too. Great breed of dogs...perhaps the greatest but I couldn't use them around here due to their proclivities to dog on dog violence. Ike, what ever his true 'pedigree', and even at a tender age is not happy to see or be near any other dogs....not even the females..of course, he hasn't been close enough to our bitcheeees to scent them and as far as I know, none are in season now.

American Bulldogs are very agile dogs. It depends on type, and the johnson type of today couldn't catch a bull regardless of how strong they are. The Scott type or Old SOuthern White are very agile dogs that fit the old "catch" type farm dogs.

I'm actually looking at getting a well bred working scott type for our all around farm dog. Guard the family and flock with his life, but could catch a couple young bulls here and there or me to.

Your pic, to me that is flat out pit/rott cross. No tan needed, it is very visible. I mostly deal with labs and pointing dogs, but dogs in general I can read well.

Just a great looking dog all around regardless.