BREEDING FOR PRODUCTION...EGGS AND OR MEAT.

[Kusanar]

Still no pics but I promise...they will come.

For anyone who gives two whoops in hell (one of dad's favorite sayings),I've concluded that I have mostly pullets, speaking of those given to me that were hatched under Angel (half 50x5DCX% and 50% Dark Cornish pullet) from @lpatelski ).

2 pure Dark Cornish ...One cockerel/one pullet
1 three quarter DC.....Cockerel, colored somewhat like pure DC (enormous, all over)
1 '' " " .....Pullet, solid black with dark slate or blue legs,tall but not overly broad-breasted. I really like her to be covered by a Chantecler cockerel.
1 " " " .....Pullets, colored much like pure DC but several white feathers on wings (might disappear). Hefty gals...open for breeding plans.
2 " " "......Pullets, beautiful colors, one white base with large and small black spots, the other, white based with red feathering across the back and
breast....much like the one Linda showed as a keeper in some of her posts. I love them all, I only wish I could have gotten their mother,
Angel and aunt, Jr. Jason is up to his butt or there'bouts with White Chantecler chicks so I know the prospect is real that I might wind up
with them if I play things right. Gonna' get about 5 cockerels from the new batch of Chanteclers too...

All cockerels I have will get to cover some the 'show quality' (and others) Naked Necks. Very high priority!!!!!

Turk EDIT: I am looking for a good scale to weigh birds, from day old to 18 month or more Capon. Any
recommendations please?

I have a digital postal scale that I use when I need to weigh things (don't have birds, so mostly weighing cats), it can weigh to the 0.1 of an oz and I have weighed a 17 pound tom cat on it so it would probably have a good range for about any birds you would want to weigh, don't know how much chicks weigh on average...

ETA:
This isn't the same as the one I have, but looks similar, not as accurate on the low end though. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...a-1ab4-4e3e-b2ad-55e007653fa8&pf_rd_i=1068986

 

[CanadianBuckeye]

Still no pics but I promise...they will come.

For anyone who gives two whoops in hell (one of dad's favorite sayings),I've concluded that I have mostly pullets, speaking of those given to me that were hatched under Angel (half 50x5DCX% and 50% Dark Cornish pullet) from @lpatelski ).

2 pure Dark Cornish ...One cockerel/one pullet
1 three quarter DC.....Cockerel, colored somewhat like pure DC (enormous, all over)
1 '' " " .....Pullet, solid black with dark slate or blue legs,tall but not overly broad-breasted. I really like her to be covered by a Chantecler cockerel.
1 " " " .....Pullets, colored much like pure DC but several white feathers on wings (might disappear). Hefty gals...open for breeding plans.
2 " " "......Pullets, beautiful colors, one white base with large and small black spots, the other, white based with red feathering across the back and
breast....much like the one Linda showed as a keeper in some of her posts. I love them all, I only wish I could have gotten their mother,
Angel and aunt, Jr. Jason is up to his butt or there'bouts with White Chantecler chicks so I know the prospect is real that I might wind up
with them if I play things right. Gonna' get about 5 cockerels from the new batch of Chanteclers too...

All cockerels I have will get to cover some the 'show quality' (and others) Naked Necks. Very high priority!!!!!

Turk EDIT: I am looking for a good scale to weigh birds, from day old to 18 month or more Capon. Any
recommendations please?

Very interesting! I see a line of chantecler/lpatelskis* /naked neck meaties in your future........

@lpatelski - *apologies forbeing so forward , naming your breed after you, but we have to name your new breed something! Or what should we call them?

 

[Beer can]

I ordered a half dozen from Murray McMurray since I've had good experience with them in the past, but one thing I noticed was all the hatcheries said they didn't breed any specific color and were of mixed coloration. I don't have the SOP in front of me but I thought the NN's in there were supposed to be one color. I'm guessing you'd have to locate a breeder if you wanted birds for both utility and to possibly show. Does anyone know if that's the case or are there hatcheries that have single colors? I wonder why the hatcheries don't have single colors?

One thing I will say is the more I learn about NN's the more interested in them I'm becoming. From a utility perspective there seems to be a lot of advantages to raising them. I'm really looking forward to getting mine in the fall because my curiosity is killing me.

Just my thought but I figure no hatcheries (not a single one that I have found) have segregated colors/lines because of lack of interest. The only recognized colors for show in the US are red, white, black, buff. I actually haven't found any online breeder or farm that has SOP colors, all keep mixed flocks. Doesn't seem to be anyone on BYC besides Nava that focuses on color. Barbedwirecat on BYC sells naked neck hatching eggs but doesn't have SOP colors either.

 

[Beer can]

@Turk Raphael if you just want a cheap digital that is pretty accurate, good enough for me, Aldi's food store if you have one near you has one for about ten bucks if I remember right. Never know what they will carry when though. I found it to be very accurate for what I use it for, weighing meat, spice mixes, cures, for sausage. Grams, oz, lbs, ml, does zero out tare. Only goes to 11lbs though.


Old pic from this winter at six months, scale too small now, he's huge.
Don't know what to do with him, figured if I had him with over a dozen hens he wouldn't damage them. I think I may have to pull him from the flock until spring hatching season, either that or outfit all the hens with saddles. Kinda crappy, he's a really nice calm rooster causes no trouble, nice to the hens, just too darn big. I really don't want my flock going into winter with no back feathers. It aint that they are too small, the white giant hens are almost as big as him and look the worst, the few red sussex I still have are pretty rough also, the smaller hens are OK probably because they move faster and avoid him.

Anybody have any suggestions? I really hate to segregate the poor boy, I have never had this problem before except when I had RIRs and too many roosters, culled all but one and problem solved, in this case he's the only one. Only way I see it is saddles which I have no experience with, or segregate him.

 

[CanadianBuckeye]

@Turk Raphael if you just want a cheap digital that is pretty accurate, good enough for me, Aldi's food store if you have one near you has one for about ten bucks if I remember right. Never know what they will carry when though. I found it to be very accurate for what I use it for, weighing meat, spice mixes, cures, for sausage. Grams, oz, lbs, ml, does zero out tare. Only goes to 11lbs though.


Old pic from this winter at six months, scale too small now, he's huge.
Don't know what to do with him, figured if I had him with over a dozen hens he wouldn't damage them. I think I may have to pull him from the flock until spring hatching season, either that or outfit all the hens with saddles. Kinda crappy, he's a really nice calm rooster causes no trouble, nice to the hens, just too darn big. I really don't want my flock going into winter with no back feathers. It aint that they are too small, the white giant hens are almost as big as him and look the worst, the few red sussex I still have are pretty rough also, the smaller hens are OK probably because they move faster and avoid him.

Anybody have any suggestions? I really hate to segregate the poor boy, I have never had this problem before except when I had RIRs and too many roosters, culled all but one and problem solved, in this case he's the only one. Only way I see it is saddles which I have no experience with, or segregate him.

Saddles work fine, the hens get used to them in a hurry (but they did not like the ones that crossed over the front). If they fit well, they tend to stay on. I made mine out of heavy pet window screening. They stay dry and clean, and allow air and sunshine onto the hen's backs.


I just cut out a rough shape from the screen using saddle measurements I dug up from the Internet. I got cheap elastic from the dollar store. The dart at the back was not necessary, this was a prototype and I tweaked the design a little for later models- there are lots of pictures of good ones floating around. They worked fine. My original ones were made of cloth, I did not like that they got wet and dirty.

 

[Turk Raphael]

Thanks all for the suggestions on scales. Before I buy, I might look around the hospital and see what's been set back and not in use when new ones have been bought....I could talk my supervisor out of one...that's how I got my microscope to check worm egg flotations...just another perk.

@Beer can , Rather than mess with saddles, it might be far easier to trim his nails really tight (over a few trimmings) and use the wood blade for a Dremel tool, cutting the spurs off all cock-birds at about 1/4'' from the leg. That's what we do and there is no bleeding....except when we cut a toe nail just a bit too much but it's easy to stop with styptic astringent. Some use flour...

 

[bramblefir]

Just my thought but I figure no hatcheries (not a single one that I have found) have segregated colors/lines because of lack of interest. The only recognized colors for show in the US are red, white, black, buff. I actually haven't found any online breeder or farm that has SOP colors, all keep mixed flocks. Doesn't seem to be anyone on BYC besides Nava that focuses on color. Barbedwirecat on BYC sells naked neck hatching eggs but doesn't have SOP colors either.

It would actually be fairly easy to get the SOP colors bred in, if someone wanted to go that route. Off the top of my head White and Buff Rocks would be a good cross to use for those 2 colors.

 

[NanaKat]

Butchered birds Saturday...cleaning out some extras....
Two 12week old COl. Wyandotte cockerels as fryers with skin...each weighed 3.5 pounds.
One 2 year old Blue COl. Wyandotte cock...skinned to brine and slow cook ...weighed in at 5.7 lbs.
One Buckeye/RIR one year old cock...skinned to brine and slow roast...4.5 lbs
One Buckeye/CWyandotte one year old...skinned to brine and slow roast...3.5 lbs
Necks and gizzards, hearts and livers....2 pounds.

Bought a dozen Pekin duck eggs and 18 Turken and a few other breed eggs for the layer/ meat flock to incubate.
These were from a local farmers market vender's 9 year old son. I like to support those children who show an interest in raising their own flock. He sells eggs to buy his own feed.
Set the eggs Sunday evening...NNs should be interesting. I had some about 10 years ago...you all are enablers!!

 

[DesertChic]

Butchered birds Saturday...cleaning out some extras....
Two 12week old COl. Wyandotte cockerels as fryers with skin...each weighed 3.5 pounds.
One 2 year old Blue COl. Wyandotte cock...skinned to brine and slow cook ...weighed in at 5.7 lbs.
One Buckeye/RIR one year old cock...skinned to brine and slow roast...4.5 lbs
One Buckeye/CWyandotte one year old...skinned to brine and slow roast...3.5 lbs
Necks and gizzards, hearts and livers....2 pounds.

Bought a dozen Pekin duck eggs and 18 Turken and a few other breed eggs for the layer/ meat flock to incubate.
These were from a local farmers market vender's 9 year old son. I like to support those children who show an interest in raising their own flock. He sells eggs to buy his own feed.
Set the eggs Sunday evening...NNs should be interesting. I had some about 10 years ago...you all are enablers!!

Hey! I resemble that remark.

 

[Kev]

These were from a local farmers market vender's 9 year old son. I like to support those children who show an interest in raising their own flock. He sells eggs to buy his own feed.
Set the eggs Sunday evening...NNs should be interesting. I had some about 10 years ago...you all are enablers!!

No no no, we are enhancers!

I love people being kind to others, that was a really nice thing you did for that kid.