Broiler survey

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

Lies and misinformation in a school project are still lies and misinformation!

C'mon folks, this survey is neither reliable nor valid.  It is a school project, and for that they do not expect absolutely reliability in measurements, and certainly not validity of the survey instrument.  Let the kid do his project!  Geeze!  Do you go to school science fairs to criticize first graders because their experiment with growing green beans does not take into account every variable?   

 

[StephieSky]

Lies and misinformation in a school project are still lies and misinformation!

Opinions vary no matter what a person chooses to survey. Ask the world at large any question, and I do mean any, and you'll get different opinions. The least likely true answer to any question being No or Yes with how much we think we know and how much we have yet to understand.

 

[Elke Beck]

Lies and misinformation in a school project are still lies and misinformation!

Okay, then send the OP a private message giving him support and direction to help him do better. Don't bash him publicly because his methods don't meet your standards. If you want people to learn and grow, respectfully explain the problem and help them find better ways instead of raining discouragement down on them. Even if you perceive the information being obtained as "lies and misinformation," bashing someone for it is not the way to encourage an open exchange of ideas; in fact, there is a large body of work which demonstrates that direct confrontation does not change people's ideas, but instead tends to cause those ideas to become entrenched and unchangeable.

 

[Kildare49]

Been down this road plenty of times when my children were in school.

The bias in books, and teachers knowledge base, resulted in a lot of teacher/parents meetings.

They never had a problem expanding the activity.

Do not assume that your instructor teaches from experience v.s. course material.

 

[Island Roo]

How about some more survey answers so this school project can continue.

Maybe we can get extra marks for discussing what might cause the polarity of the answers which could potentially include:
- biased reports in public media
- industry participants protecting their own interest.

There might even be some people who respond to the survey who really know all the "correct" answers.

ETA: More "possible" reasons:
- Where the survey was conducted - "Backyard Chickens"
- Some bad broiler operations affecting the industry's reputation

 

[meganblythe]

Wow, tough crowd here! We probably are biased, definitely not a random sample from the population. You know what would make this project really neat? If you repeat this survey with a truly random sample of people (maybe those shopping in you average grocery store, or even better fueling up at a gas station so you don't introduce bias from your choice of grocery stores) and compare it to the results from this thread! Heck, maybe that was your intention all along!

1.SD
2.D
3.SD
4.D
5.D
6.D
7.D
8.A

 

[whitechantecler]

I raise broilers and broiler breeders. 27,000 broiler ever 5weeks we ship out at 2kg! It work with feed and water lines not sqft.

 

[ChocolateMouse]

1.Factory raised broilers have good living conditions
2.Factory raised broilers are healthy
3.Factory raised broilers are raised in humane conditions
4.Factory raised broiler chickens are just the same as dual purpose chickens in terms of meat
5.Factory raised broiler chickens are better than dual purpose chickens in terms of meat
6.Factory raised broiler chickens are very disadvantageous when it comes to the quality of their meat
7.Factory raised broiler chickens will make you sick
8.Factory raised broiler chickens are safe
For question 8, safe is defined as not becoming medically ill in the course of a year when a person consumes a broiler chicken every week. Broiler chickens are known to contain more fats than the traditional chickens and this can cause the clogging of arteries and other related diseases due to over consumption of fat. Viruses such as salmonella can also be present in broiler meat when raised in unclean factory conditions and can make the consumer very sick. Basically these are the two illnesses that will define if a broiler chicken is safe in this report.
There are 4 options for each question SA(strongly agree) A(agree) D(disagree) SD(strongly disagree)

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1, SD
2, D
3, SD
4, SD
5, SA (Factory chickens produce WAY more meat, lets be honest here, nobody I know gets a 6-8lb bird in 6 weeks even out of home-raised CXs)
6, N/A (I agree with both sides of this question, I think it's a matter of taste, some people really like old hens, some people like grocery chicken. I like both.)
7, SD
8, A
(With the exception of the fact that one should not eat chicken every day, even factory chicken offers great health advantages and few disadvantages in terms of fat consumption. Few chickens contain enough fat to increase the fat content of a diet in an unhealthy way without the additions of other fats, for example fried chicken (fry oil) or chicken paprikash (sour cream), etc. If one excersizes and lives an active life the lesser fats on the heritage breeds when eaten every day could actually cause anemia and unhealthy weight loss. Ultimately it's not a factor of the fat in the chicken, but a factor of the fat to excersize level. So this question is somewhat weighted in that regard. In regard to the viruses that make people sick, there have been more serious disease outbreaks in my area from vegetables than from meats in the past 5 years. Chicken only tends to make people sick when cooked improperly and that can happen with heritage birds almost as easily.)


I suppose it's worth noting since there's a debate going on, I have been in factory chicken houses. There used to be a tiny one near-by that kept dozens of birds to and above factory standards and butchered them for you while you waited. You'd pick your live bird and it'd be butchered in the immaculate back room. They were shut down for being "unsanitary" but they took better care of their birds than the CAFOs do. So don't tell me that they're living in healthy, sanitary conditions when they would be shut down if people walked in and picked out their birds straight out of the cage for butcher in a perfectly clean back-room environment.

 

[cassie]

1.Factory raised broilers have good living conditions. Yes.
SA People may not think so, but as long as a growing broiler chicken has access to plenty of food, water, and a place to lounge and sleep, they are happy. They remind me of my brother-in-law.

2.Factory raised broilers are healthy
SA Yes

3.Factory raised broilers are raised in humane conditions
A See my response to #1

4.Factory raised broiler chickens are just the same as dual purpose chickens in terms of meat
D. The carcass is much meatier on a broiler than a dual purpose chicken.

5.Factory raised broiler chickens are better than dual purpose chickens in terms of meat
Yes.

6.Factory raised broiler chickens are very disadvantageous when it comes to the quality of their meat
SD No. I'll take a broiler any day over a dual purpose whether I buy it or raise it myself

7.Factory raised broiler chickens will make you sick
SD Of course not. It is important to follow safe handling guidelines when dealing with any poultry. By the way, home grown poultry can be infected with salmonella, too

8.Factory raised broiler chickens are safe
SA Just use safe handling techniques as advised for poultry

 

[Beekissed]

Quote:
1.Factory raised broilers have good living conditions~SD

I have spent the past several years living smack dab in the middle of commercial broiler country...the smells, the rotten carcasses, the dark and airless buildings in which the dust, ammonia and noise is at a horrible level is not good for animal nor man. I've talked with those who work there and it's among the most horrible jobs I can ever imagine.

And this is the video showing the improved chicken houses...

carefully edited to NOT show the dead birds that have to be collected each day, which is most likely why they are shown walking down the chicken house near the end, looking for carcasses~that is one of the jobs of those who work in these places..collecting the dead bodies each day.

2. Factory raised broilers are healthy~SD

See vid above and let me know if any of the birds in your flock can barely walk, staggering a few feet and dropping down. If you saw a human in that condition, would you think they were healthy?

3.Factory raised broilers are raised in humane conditions~SD

See vid above and define humane...and keep in mind that this is a video dressed up to promote the business. Imagine the vids that show it how it really is...watch Food, Inc and get back to me.

4.Factory raised broiler chickens are just the same as dual purpose chickens in terms of meat~D

Depends on if the DP birds are also raised in a factory. But, generally, no...the broiler birds are younger and the meat has less overall flavor than an older bird. Much like veal has a different taste than a beef steer butchered at the appropriate age. The meat texture, color and taste is completely different.

5.Factory raised broiler chickens are better than dual purpose chickens in terms of meat~ A

They have more meat per carcass and get to processing size quicker.

6.Factory raised broiler chickens are very disadvantageous when it comes to the quality of their meat~N/A

It's a trade off...more meat at a quicker rate, less taste and texture overall.

7.Factory raised broiler chickens will make you sick~A

Over a life of eating it or anything raised, made, or developed in a factory will eventually make you sick.

8.Factory raised broiler chickens are safe~D

See #7