Broody guinea hatch

It's been awhile since I been on BY Guineas but lately I've been reading threads looking for answers about broody hens. It was a tough April and May here for my guineas, lost three to foxes and one I presume to a Goshawk by the tears left on the barely alive guinea when I found it having heard a ruckus. My plan to have at least four pairs got shot down so now I am left with 3 hens and 2 cocks ,one of which is the last bird of my original 10 I got two years ago. He is the dominant cock and after his mate of 1 ½ years was plucked out of my yard by a fox he took up with the younger pearl. That left my younger male who paired with my white hen (my son named her ebay because I bought 6 eggs on ebay and she's the only one who hatched)and a lavender hen who was always kind of a loner even when they all started to get out this late winter and spring when they could, and some of my former older males just left her alone too.


So fast forward to now, I have my Lavender who is the most broody, but no definite mate with 6 keets so far and still some more eggs to go, my white female spends some time on the nest with the lavender in the morning, then leaves, but the most stressful part is 4 or 5 times a day my dominant male and his hen chase my lavender out of the coop for 20, 30 or 40 minutes and that hen sits on the eggs and hangs with the keets. My lavender goes crazy, paces nervously outside in the run, the big male comes after her if she tries to come in. Then after there allotted time they just leave ,all the doors are open ,they range and she goes back in. Some times she kinds of fakes the big male out and pretends to just be feeding but as soon as she sees him moving a way she runs in the coop. I'm guessing this is pretty normal behavior but a couple times the keets have come out in the run when the dominant pair is there alone with them and last week I came home to a keet ,one of the first hatched, dead in the run. The lavender keeps them all in the coop and drinks water with them and is way more attentive. I'm not in control and I see disaster looming.
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg
IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg
IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg
IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg
IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg
IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg
IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg
IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg
IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg
IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg
IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg
IMG_20200706_104934080.jpg IMG_20200706_105423966.jpg IMG_20200706_162340864 (2).jpg So your having problems too Mixed I see with your broody flock and think yes it would be less stressful to rear them in the large dog crate like I have with all of my first guineas and then comes the problem with integrating with the others and yes I have done it, but I just felt like seeing how this turns out and maybe even learning some more about these birds. I may see things going south and put them all in my small coop and there my older guineas could see them but I'm trying this for now.


Her's a couple pics with my lavender and Ebay with her.
 
So you want to go July or August Hatchalong? LOL- or both for good measure?
Well, experimental broody hatch 2 will be at Day 26 next Friday, July 17, just in time for me to need to leave to go get my mom from Iowa! :thSo, we could join July if you like! It’ll be interesting for you anyway to get a sneak peak of everyone’s hatching experiences!
 
It's been awhile since I been on BY Guineas but lately I've been reading threads looking for answers about broody hens. It was a tough April and May here for my guineas, lost three to foxes and one I presume to a Goshawk by the tears left on the barely alive guinea when I found it having heard a ruckus. My plan to have at least four pairs got shot down so now I am left with 3 hens and 2 cocks ,one of which is the last bird of my original 10 I got two years ago. He is the dominant cock and after his mate of 1 ½ years was plucked out of my yard by a fox he took up with the younger pearl. That left my younger male who paired with my white hen (my son named her ebay because I bought 6 eggs on ebay and she's the only one who hatched)and a lavender hen who was always kind of a loner even when they all started to get out this late winter and spring when they could, and some of my former older males just left her alone too.


So fast forward to now, I have my Lavender who is the most broody, but no definite mate with 6 keets so far and still some more eggs to go, my white female spends some time on the nest with the lavender in the morning, then leaves, but the most stressful part is 4 or 5 times a day my dominant male and his hen chase my lavender out of the coop for 20, 30 or 40 minutes and that hen sits on the eggs and hangs with the keets. My lavender goes crazy, paces nervously outside in the run, the big male comes after her if she tries to come in. Then after there allotted time they just leave ,all the doors are open ,they range and she goes back in. Some times she kinds of fakes the big male out and pretends to just be feeding but as soon as she sees him moving a way she runs in the coop. I'm guessing this is pretty normal behavior but a couple times the keets have come out in the run when the dominant pair is there alone with them and last week I came home to a keet ,one of the first hatched, dead in the run. The lavender keeps them all in the coop and drinks water with them and is way more attentive. I'm not in control and I see disaster looming.
View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463View attachment 2232458View attachment 2232461View attachment 2232463So your having problems too Mixed I see with your broody flock and think yes it would be less stressful to rear them in the large dog crate like I have with all of my first guineas and then comes the problem with integrating with the others and yes I have done it, but I just felt like seeing how this turns out and maybe even learning some more about these birds. I may see things going south and put them all in my small coop and there my older guineas could see them but I'm trying this for now.


Her's a couple pics with my lavender and Ebay with her.
Well your keets are so adorable! Beautiful adults too! Your broody situation does indeed sound stressful, and I’m sorry about the dead keet!!! I was really really horrified to find one of my keets dead and hanging from my electric mesh fencing.

So, with your situation, why don’t the keets leave with the lavender mom when she leaves the nest? It seems like if they were off the nest when the dominant pair want to lay, then there would be no conflict? How old are the keets? You mentioned your small coop: could you get mom and keets into that coop for a week until they are no longer so attached to the nest?
 
Well your keets are so adorable! Beautiful adults too! Your broody situation does indeed sound stressful, and I’m sorry about the dead keet!!! I was really really horrified to find one of my keets dead and hanging from my electric mesh fencing.

So, with your situation, why don’t the keets leave with the lavender mom when she leaves the nest? It seems like if they were off the nest when the dominant pair want to lay, then there would be no conflict? How old are the keets? You mentioned your small coop: could you get mom and keets into that coop for a week until they are no longer so attached to the nest?



I've thought about moving them ,but what I've read on here that moving eggs with or without keets doesn't guarantee she would sit on them. And she seems as attached to the eggs as she is to the keets. And Ebay is very attached to so I'd almost have to move them both. I'd say they are a week old but maybe more to come,probably ten eggs left. Yesterday I found an egg in the morning on the floor in the coop and today the same thing so, something is going on there..


Yesterday was crazy because of course a late afternoon thunderstorm arrived just as the dominate pair did there thing and as they were leaving all the keets followed. Lavender went in but the keets couldn't make it up the ramp so I had to go in the run and scoop them up just as a sideways down pour hit hard and all chaos broke out. Both Lavender and Ebay were freaking which brought the three amigos back in and everybody was attacking me as I got all the wet little feather balls inside. I had already cut a piece of OSB to extend the ramp from there run into the coop knowing that the existing one was problematic so I went and got it immediately and screwed it on and of course the adults went crazy, except Ebay who went right in. The pearls took about 15 minutes to figure it out and Lavender was so freaked out she wouldn't even go inside the run for 30 minutes ( good thing ebay was in there with the keets). After about an hour she finally got up the nerve and went up it and by dusk and some white millet they were calm. The ramp extension also makes it harder for the keets to get out because they have a higher step, so that might last a week or so. I guess it's a day at a time ,I'm glad we have experiences to compare.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_20200702_162302403.jpg
    IMG_20200702_162302403.jpg
    1.1 MB · Views: 10
  • IMG_20200709_074200552.jpg
    IMG_20200709_074200552.jpg
    757.3 KB · Views: 12
I've thought about moving them ,but what I've read on here that moving eggs with or without keets doesn't guarantee she would sit on them. And she seems as attached to the eggs as she is to the keets. And Ebay is very attached to so I'd almost have to move them both. I'd say they are a week old but maybe more to come,probably ten eggs left. Yesterday I found an egg in the morning on the floor in the coop and today the same thing so, something is going on there..


Yesterday was crazy because of course a late afternoon thunderstorm arrived just as the dominate pair did there thing and as they were leaving all the keets followed. Lavender went in but the keets couldn't make it up the ramp so I had to go in the run and scoop them up just as a sideways down pour hit hard and all chaos broke out. Both Lavender and Ebay were freaking which brought the three amigos back in and everybody was attacking me as I got all the wet little feather balls inside. I had already cut a piece of OSB to extend the ramp from there run into the coop knowing that the existing one was problematic so I went and got it immediately and screwed it on and of course the adults went crazy, except Ebay who went right in. The pearls took about 15 minutes to figure it out and Lavender was so freaked out she wouldn't even go inside the run for 30 minutes ( good thing ebay was in there with the keets). After about an hour she finally got up the nerve and went up it and by dusk and some white millet they were calm. The ramp extension also makes it harder for the keets to get out because they have a higher step, so that might last a week or so. I guess it's a day at a time ,I'm glad we have experiences to compare.
Ah, you have a staggered hatch. Yes, that does make it more challenging! At least it sounds like all of your guineas are accepting of the keets.
 
Ah, you have a staggered hatch. Yes, that does make it more challenging! At least it sounds like all of your guineas are accepting of the keets.

Well, maybe a staggered hatch, this is the second day now that both white and lavender females have taken the 6 keets out into the guinea yard although yesterday was not as early as they were today. I guess I'll candle the eggs that are left and maybe put them in my incubator. I wonder why they have decided not to sit on the eggs anymore?
 
Well, maybe a staggered hatch, this is the second day now that both white and lavender females have taken the 6 keets out into the guinea yard although yesterday was not as early as they were today. I guess I'll candle the eggs that are left and maybe put them in my incubator. I wonder why they have decided not to sit on the eggs anymore?
I think that, like in chickens, once babies hatch, the hens start to lose the egg sitting drive. My primary mom of our keets continued to sit on the eggs - sometimes- for about 1-2 weeks. I eventually moved the eggs to an incubator, where several died and several hatched after a few weeks.
 

New posts New threads Active threads

Back
Top Bottom