I just picked up an old Brower 11670 bator ( it was free), what a beast , its in very good condition, very little rust on the bottom. everything is good with it except the heating element. it comes on but does not warm up. along the tubing there appears to be a crimp. I have contacted Brower via email to see if I can get replacement parts for it. Its a really neat Bator and takes up the whole top of my Washing Machine. fingers crossed I can restore it to its usefull self. Does anyone else use some of the older style Bators? Pro's Cons?