Buckeye Breed Thread

[fowlman01]

Yes it is a bargain for what type of book it is Walt, but for me, 59 dollars was a lot to pay for a book, no matter how good it was. But, I saved up the money and got it. I did get the newest addition, but in terms of using it for the Buckeyes, I didn't think anything had changed? That is why I mentioned an older copy, obviously if you raise other breeds it may not be accurate. As silly as this may sound, I actually made a copy of the Buckeye pages and took it out to my flock to compare. Not sure if I interpreted in right, as you know, even with the SOP, it's still left up to "interpretation". What one judge thinks, may not be what another thinks, I had that happen with my Muscovy's . In any case it's a good book none the less and one to save and purchase if she gets a chance.

I understand that the price is relative to a persons financial situation. I am retired from a university and a book like that in our bookstore would be in the $400.00 range. You are correct....the Buckeye is the same and you idea of copying the illustration and putting it out where your birds are is one of the best things you have done so far. Judges may have different ideas about the description, but there is only one description and if you follow it you can't go wrong. Judges are people and people don't always see things the same way. muscovys are hard for judges that don't know waterfowl as well as they should. The mistakes in Muscovys are in the head and underline...usually.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

For beginners or experts, this thread is one of the best on BYC.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/400344/heritage-large-fowl-thread/12400#post_11316798

There are very helpful posts there.

Walt

 

[pettec63]

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Thank you!

that's a great quote!

 

[pettec63]

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Thank you, and your right, in this case it was the 10 % white. The judge actually thought my drake didn't have enough? But the SOP says can't have MORE than 10 % white? Anyway, it didn't hurt him too bad, I gave up my Muscovy's for right now, I'm going to concentrate on the Buckeyes, then maybe I'll go back to the ducks, I do like them. Caruncle is another interpretation issue.

 

[pettec63]

For beginners or experts, this thread is one of the best on BYC.

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/400344/heritage-large-fowl-thread/12400#post_11316798

There are very helpful posts there.

Walt

Ok thanks, I will read it, I just perused it, they belong to the SPPA? I just joined about a month ago and got my breeders directory and newsletter. I was going to mention that there are a few articles in the newsletter and the breeders directory about breeding heritage poultry. I was going to take some time and read it thoroughly and make some notes. Thanks for all your good information, it is deeply appreciated!

 

[fowlman01]

Ok thanks, I will read it, I just perused it, they belong to the SPPA? I just joined about a month ago and got my breeders directory and newsletter. I was going to mention that there are a few articles in the newsletter and the breeders directory about breeding heritage poultry. I was going to take some time and read it thoroughly and make some notes. Thanks for all your good information, it is deeply appreciated!

Most of the contributors belong to the APA and some the SPPA.

w.

 

[Tailfeathers]

Forget what you know about dogs and goats etc and learn about breeding chickens. I have been doing this for 50 years and I'm still learning....this is not easy.

Walt

50 years? Are you kidding me? Thanks a lot, Walt! I don't know whether to be encouraged now (because I'm REALLY still learning!) or just give up and go back to fishing!

God Bless,

Royce

 

[Tailfeathers]

I believe I have a nice flock of Buckeyes, they come from a very reputable breeder, but they are all brother and sister, therefore, I will be acquiring some birds, that are in the same line. After that, I have no intention of bringing anything else in. ... I am right at the starting point, as all my current stock are a year old. I have culled out what I think are inferior birds, and have kept only 6 hens and 3 cocks. .

Hi Julie. I don't recall if we've met or talked before but I may be able to help you with getting some more Buckeyes. Also, unless there's a specific reason why you want to get more birds that are "in the same line" (Or did you mean same "strain"? "Line" would basically be going back to the same breeder.), if you are planning on sticking with them, then it may not matter that much where you get your next Buckeyes from as long as they come from a good breeder and you ask all the appropriate questions to ensure the birds you bring in fit with your proposed breeding program.

If I remember right, there are basically four strains of Buckeyes. I'm not at my desktop right now so I can't pull up my notes and history info but Brown, Urch, Pearce, and there was another one. And then there was the ALBC which, again going strictly from memory, was a combination of Brown & Urch? So, that being said, after you start making the choices of putting birds together you are basically starting your own line. The original "strain" is still there but the results - whether advances or declines - towards improving the breed, and in particular your flock, is directly related to your choices. Thus becoming your "line".

I'm not gonna make Puyallup but I'll probably be in Chehalis with a few of my Buckeyes for the Winter Brisk. Be sure to bring yours! I'm tired of mine being the only ones there. I'd really like to see the breed get more representation. And that's the only reason I say that.

God Bless,

Royce

 

[fowlman01]

50 years? Are you kidding me? Thanks a lot, Walt! I don't know whether to be encouraged now (because I'm REALLY still learning!) or just give up and go back to fishing!

God Bless,

Royce

You can do both Royce. I have two hobbies....maybe that is why I'm still learning.

w.

 

[Pathfinders]

We refurbished an older hoop house today and moved the young pullets into it. Here they are scoping things out. Just not sure about that tarp (still after all these years haven't found a good way to close up the back with the tarps. Ah well, it's all temporary anyway...)



And as a typical Kentucky storm moves through as I am typing now, I am more than grateful for my husband's considerable skill with rope and knots. He has that sucker tied down tighter than a tick on a coon dog! The one drawback of hoop houses is, if you don't anchor them well, they make wonderful kites.