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Getting a pyr pup in 2013 will put you NOT leaving it unsupervised until at the very least mid 2014 but likely the end of 2014 and early 2015. they require months of training/supervision before left alone with poultry. Not all lines are good with poultry either, so would rather make chase on poultry and will gladly guard hoof stock and large livestock.

Our youngest is tied near the goats during the day and has his own dog house. He can patrol the outside fence line of their area and loafing shed. He has birds free ranging around him and the geese will walk up to his water bucket. he ignores them. The ducks he still gets puppy dumb with, but they dont get close and he is learning. he will start being free during the day without us by December 2013. If we are out working he is loose to work around us and the animals.

The 3 year old male is free all day and night, and in the evening the pup is turned loose with him after put the ducks and geese to bed. He patrols the pup around and you can see the learning going on.

The 3 year old female has taken to sleeping on the hill in front during the day (with the Alfa Dewlaps and Ancona flock)


If you are looking at Pyr pups, visit the farm they raised on, see how they are raised. if they are raised on a farm I would walk away. They need to come from working stock and born into a working position. If its a farm but they raise them in the house I would also not buy.

Our two males were both born in barns to working stock and raised with the mothers and as they grew were right along side their mothers. Both had experience around poultry and sheep/goats.

Our female was from working stock, expect they took mom and pups inside. The pups never saw the farm animals until they were 7-8 weeks old. She took 8 months longer to be trusted around the poultry, and only recently can be left alone without testing fence lines and wanting to claim all the land around us as her space. She is however an EXCELLENT companion dog and medical aid dog for my husband and responds to his needs when he is having physical trouble getting around.
 
Thanks for the insight. Guess I'll just stay with plan A, putting up another wooden perimeter fence to the ground. Sounds easier, and less expensive than replacing all my birds. I don't think I want that much trouble, and nobody had them around here that actually do a job.
 
Two years of training that is so intensive with no dog to help sounds like a drag still. I don't mind training dogs, but I usually have more short term goals. I can teach a dog to fetch a tissue with a sneeze command, or to bring something to a foot pedal trash can and throw it away, but 2 years with no example dog for something this specific sounds like a tremendous commitment. I was raised with shepard dogs that took commands for seperating pigs and cattle, but I didn't train them. I know it took years. The last one was 5 when I was born, and by the time I paid attention she was impressive allready.
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we worked our male and female at the same time (they are 30 days apart in age) with no adult dog to help. It required keeping them separate. It was work, but worth it since we cant afford to suffer predator losses. The female keeps the two legged predators away out front as well as the hawks who would snatch ducklings and goslings otherwise.
 
So I guess adopting one from the shelter would be out of the question then, reason I am saying is there was one for adoption not long ago. No telling what kind of back ground it came from.
 
Very true Celtic, Some Pyrenees will not make good poultry guardians. They are very loving family dogs. I haven't had issues with training my dogs though, they seem to take right to their instinct. They only issue I have is getting our free rangers to stick close to home the first year or two. It seems now that I have some in pens where they can't roam, it makes the others want to stick around. They are loving dogs that will snap a coyote's neck in one shake, my kind of dog. Here's Bruno............


 

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