Buff laced Wyandottes

[Blisschick]

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No, not if you are using a true buff Wyandotte. Neither has the incomplete dominate blue gene, so no blue birds of any kind would result.

And I heard that 25% BLRW are BLW.
Hope this makes sense.

They aren't buff, but splash. Splash can be very pale and whitish looking, but aren't true buff.

A true buff will have the black lacing suppressed by the dominate white gene, so that the bird appears to have white lacing.​

 

[coffeemama]

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The guy I got the eggs from did the breeding and it was because he lost his blr roo this past winter and hadn't replaced him yet.

 

[yoker]

So blue x black would be splash witch looks like white but isn't?
Blisschick
When I wrote blw I didn't mean Blue laced wyandotte I men't Buff laced wyandotte

 

[Blisschick]

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Ah, I see. I was wondering if you were using him in your breeding program, because gold laced being bred to BLR is one of the reasons the BLR color is having so many problems right now in the US. GLW lack the mahogany gene that deepens the red coloring, so a lot of the BLR you get will actually be blue laced gold. You can tell the two apart because the gold will look pale or brassy in comparison to the red.

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I understood what you meant. You won't get any splash chicks from blue x black.

blue x black= 50% black chicks, 50% blue chicks
blue x splash=50% blue, 50% splash
blue x blue= 25% black, 50% blue, 25% splash
splash x splash= 100% splash
black x splash= 100% blue

It only takes one gene to make a blue bird because the blue gene is an incomplete dominant. When a chicken is splash, it has two copies. The blue gene is kind of funny because it can build up a "dosage effect", meaning that if you keep breeding just splash chickens, in a couple of generations the birds will appear mostly white or very pale gray where they should be blue. If you breed these splash birds back to a blue or black bird, the blue color will be seen again in the chicks.

 

[yoker]

sorry I men't white x black = some splash

 

[Blisschick]

No, you won't get splash from white x black because the genes don't work that way. In order for you to get a blue or splash bird, the blue gene has to be present in one or both of the parents. The blue gene works only with the black gene.

If you breed white x black, you will probably get some white birds with black spotting (called "mottling"), depending on whether the white is dominant (which lets other colors "leak" through), or recessive, which is a clean white. Recessive white masks other colors, but you still won't get blue or splash without the gene(s) being present.

 

[yoker]

Good cause I wanted white and I didn't want Splash

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

I had been meaning to read this thread and just now am getting around to it. It would be easier to breed a white laced red to some light gold laced. We got a white laced red male from a breeder and bred him to a gold laced and got white laced gold, the chicks had a couple black spots in the white lacing. I am pretty sure the bantam white laced reds are dominant white lacing, I am pretty sure they used WLR cornish to get the color. If you could get ahold of a bantam male and some good GLW hens just breed them together, keep the best male and breed him back to GLW hens and keep doing that until you get the desired color and size.

 

[yoker]

It would be just as hard to get those colors as it would to get Buff laced wyandottes.
Flyingmonkeypoop: could I see some of your BuffLW please.

 

[coffeemama]

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Ah, I see. I was wondering if you were using him in your breeding program, because gold laced being bred to BLR is one of the reasons the BLR color is having so many problems right now in the US. GLW lack the mahogany gene that deepens the red coloring, so a lot of the BLR you get will actually be blue laced gold. You can tell the two apart because the gold will look pale or brassy in comparison to the red.

Yes, I am well aware of that, and didn't even know that was the case with his flock until after I hatched the chicks and ended up with some odd combos. I'm hoping by next year he will have some replacement roos