Buying poultry at shows: Updates in post #1

Discussion in 'Chickenstocks, Shows, Meet-Ups' started by HallFamilyFarm, Aug 8, 2011.

  1. HallFamilyFarm

    HallFamilyFarm APA ETL#195

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    I started this thread to help folks who have never been to a large poultry show and bought birds. If you have a suggestion on buying at poultry shows, please post your suggestions. Please stay on topic: Buying poultry at shows.

    With the huge Crossroads show in October, many folks are buying birds to have them delivered at Crossroads or other shows. Here are a few questions to consider:

    1) Where are you going to house the expected bird during the show?

    2) Under your show coops?

    3) In the motel room?

    4) In the car?

    Suggestion: enter your new bird in the show at Crossroads (or whatever show you are meeting at). The may not win, but you will have a coop to house them in during the show. The sale area is a bit different at Crossroads. No coops are available. Must bring your own and the cost is $50 for a 10x10 space. The entry fee on a single entry is $3. Not a bad fee for a storage cage.

    Many old timers will pay for a few extra holes just in case they buy a bird. Crossroads could use the extra money. Now most judges and show officials do not like empty holes, but with some shows being so big, it helps to have a safe place to house those birds till the show is over.

    At the 2010 APA National in Shawnee we placed Best of Variety and Best of Breed on a Buff Leghorn Bantam hen and a Butterscotch Call male duck. We acquired both at the show and slipped them in Jacob's empty Buckeye Bantam holes. We had left two hens in poor show condition at home. The coops were ours, as we had paid for the entry fee. Why the judge judged them out of place we don't know. Hew as just moving along, grabbed them and judged them. Since they were the only of their kind in that isle, they won! Now I know there were many more Leghorn Bantams and Butterscotch Calls. It was sort of funny.

    So go ahead and find that bird you want on BYC-BSA, featherauction, Poultry Press etc, but plan ahead and make arrangements as to where the new bird will stay while at the show. At Crossroads it being October, the back of the truck or in the car may work. But if the show is elsewhere, consider the temperatures. You do not want to come out to the car and have fried chicken waiting on you. You also do not want to slide your new $100 cockerel under your show coops and forget to water it for three days.

    Other suggestions, as I think of them I will update post #1:

    Know your seller, or at least check the seller out.

    Ask if they are NPIP or if the bird will have a 90 day USDA type certificate.
     
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  2. Oregon Blues

    Oregon Blues Overrun With Chickens

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    Excellent advice to get extra coops for your new birds. An added bonus is that they will be nicely cage broke by the end of the show.
     
  3. HallFamilyFarm

    HallFamilyFarm APA ETL#195

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    A plus is it will be in the show (if you pay for it in advance and it arrives before judging). Then you can see what the judges think about it. If it does good, great and you can brag on who you just bought the bird from. If it does poorly, well....guess you can brag on who you just bought the bird from!
     
  4. OwensMom

    OwensMom Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Jimsfarmstand, thanks for starting this thread. I am a rank amature and this will sure help me learn. Great idea about the coops and why is the 90 day USDA Cert so important? Is that a health cert? Thanks again
     
  5. HallFamilyFarm

    HallFamilyFarm APA ETL#195

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    Quote:Most states require all poultry must be tested for pullorum-typhoid (P/T) disease before entering. This is done with either a blood test with a whole flock NPIP test or a single bird blood test and a 90 day certificate is given. To exhibit at any poultry show you must either be a NPIP participant or have a 90 day certificate. NPIP- National Poultry Improvement Plan/USDA. Here is my NPIP number:

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    Always look for this symbol when buying chicks or hatching eggs. Its kind of like the Good Housekeeping symbol for chickens. Most hatcheries are NPIP participants. Once a year an inspector with Arkansas Livestock and Poultry Commission comes to our small farm and inspects and tests all birds. Our incubators are swapped for disease as well.

    ALL poultry going to Crossroads, exhibition and sell birds, MUST have either originated from a NPIP flock or have a 90 day certificate. Thankfully Arkansas has authorised private testers, folks that have taken a course and are now authorised to test and issue the 90 certificates. We have two autorised private testers near our area: myself and jenscott, another BYC member. We may also test our own birds. So if I buy a bird at a sale/swap and it has not been tested, I can test it before leaving the sale.

    Hope that answers your question. Learn more about teh NPIP at:

    http://www.aphis.usda.gov/publicati...ent/printable_version/npip_brochure_12-05.pdf
     
  6. Katy

    Katy Flock Mistress

    I don't show....never have and have no plans to in the future, but I will say if I did, I'd never buy a bird and turn around and enter it in the show I'm picking it up at. Rather feels like I'd be taking credit for someone elses hard work.

    As to the NPIP......It's a good thing to have, but since it only tests for two diseases I've always thought it gives people a false sense of security that they are buying a "safe" bird.
     

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