Cabots

[CDT]

hey iheard from a few people that the Gov is going to lift the need for the permit for these birds ... i think he sid if they find 200 cabots in the us i was wondering if any one else know about this ofr know how its coming

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I thought the APWS succeeded several year back in removing the permit for all endangered species? Or was that just for the common ones?
I know it took it off all the common pheasants and all the waterfowl. Is it still on some of the rarer species?

 

[CDT]

yes they still have it not sure what birds fall under it but i know last yr i was looking in to cabots and several people said i needed the permit, this yr i decided i would try for the permit, but when i talked to a guy about where and how to get it he said that they were trying to lift it on cabots, i trust the guy so i dont think he would be shooting me a line

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

I got ya,
I know they lifted the permit off the others back oh 8 years ago or so, may just still be on stuff like cabots and blyth's, but I have never seen an ad where anyone says you need a permit for them any more. On it, both the buyer and seller had to have one if they were in seperate states, no buying permit was needed if you lived in state with the seller, but the seller still had to have it. In most cases like this, the seller puts a note in the ad, as to them needing permits.

Who knows, hope it is or is getting lifted as I plan to get some in a couple years.

 

[CDT]

yep i plan on getting some this yr im going to save what i can and try to get 2 unrelated prs so maybe we can make a deal in a few yrs

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

sounds good to me,
I know Triple S has some really nice ones.

 

[CDT]

thats were i plan on getting them got a tem hen from him a few yrs back that was one good bird good and healthy

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

Yep he imported a lot of his birds from Glenn Howe in Ontario who also has great stock.
But yes, if you are looking for anything rare and hard to find in pheasants, He's the man to go too. Pretty much if it's here in the states, he has it.

 

[CDT]

yep would highly reccomend him would love to go ee his place one day

 

[Alien]

Yes, you still need a Captive Bred Permit from the USFWS. This alone with all the paperwork and BS,is why there is not many breeders of this species. Once and IF this is lifted there will be more breeders attempting to raise Cabots. There might be 200 birds in private breeders aviarys now but I doubt it.I hear Ron Sumner has quite a few. I heard the same rumor years back, and I know there was over 200 birds at that time, as I used to raise over 30 birds a year myself. It would be nice, they are a challenge, major drawbacks are infertile males, males and females imprinted on there keepers, and aspergillus. Same with Byth Tragopans, doubt yo will ever see them come off the list in our lifetime. Very few birds in zoos andthe private sector, most are WPA owned.