Calcium bolus please HELP

[Antiocheggers]

So sorry !

 

[Joyce_Turner]

You will rest by your favorite tree.
And when the wind stirs the leaves,
I will know it is you laughing...
You fought like a warrior. Now rest.
But visit often.
I’ll leave the light on.

 

[Joyce_Turner]

I'm reading all this and I'm amazed that neighbor hasn't offered any help or concern. What happened to the kids
I'll be nice but they should be taught leason here.

Thank you for your feelings.

That's ok. Karma is a nasty thing. God sees, and in the end that's all that may matter... That and my lawyer, of course.

 

[Eggcessive]

I am very sorry that you lost your hen. It is unfortunate that the young girls fed the calcium to her in the first place. I would not make a huge deal over this with your neighbor, since you have to live there. I would take some time to mourn your hen, and then not let your hens visit there. But also tell the girls to never give them anything to eat again. I don’t take sick chickens to vets. My daughter is a vet in another state, and she said they did not spend much time on poultry. They learned how to tube feed and treat bumblefoot. I got chickens after she got out of school, and she has no interest in chickens. She and the grandkids once farm sat them, but they were in good hands. Avian vets are more experienced with parrots and exotic birds. I think this website came about because of a shortage of information on chickens. We don’t always have answers though.

 

[Joyce_Turner]

I am very sorry that you lost your hen. It is unfortunate that the young girls fed the calcium to her in the first place. I would not make a huge deal over this with your neighbor, since you have to live there. I would take some time to mourn your hen, and then not let your hens visit there. But also tell the girls to never give them anything to eat again. I don’t take sick chickens to vets. My daughter is a vet in another state, and she said they did not spend much time on poultry. They learned how to tube feed and treat bumblefoot. I got chickens after she got out of school, and she has no interest in chickens. She and the grandkids once farm sat them, but they were in good hands. Avian vets are more experienced with parrots and exotic birds. I think this website came about because of a shortage of information on chickens. We don’t always have answers though.

Thank you. Yes I will keep a clear mind. If I do take them to court then they don't need to be coming back at me saying there was any verbal altercation or antagonism.

Yes. My experiences are that so mny people who call themselves avian vets don't know what they are doing at all. So it fits with what you have said about limited knowledge even at college when it comes to makling vets. My intuition is that they spend more time being told how to milk a client, startng with the owner sure not welcome "triage": are they threat or can we milk them to bankrupcy... I even yelled at one these past days saying you learn how to invoice NOT investigate..... Only to be frowned at and told I was being verbally abusive. Guess some cant do truth it makes them brain fry and then they start projecting and gaslighting because that too is also easier than THOUGHT, CARE, COMPASSION.

...you go to a vet to learn you should never have gone to a vet...

I have been doing so much for her. I know how to do a whole lot. The bad point comes when oral vitamin A or calcium gluconate is needed. It's more than I can do. I can't do syringe yet. I have no idea. So that is where this loop out of hell started. She lost her vitamin A stores because of hr problems that she did carry. Then calcium stalled. She got sick, infection already had started, I was too late seeing the signs, she had salpingitis, lash eggs. That's beyond what I can solve. My antibiotics here were not enough. Then i was in that milk em dry vet loop. They should all be held accountable. They all killed my hen before them kids even had their turn. When finally i got antibiotics it was way too high dosage. I had to research and correct. Then she was staggering, had tetany because no one bothered to write up the comprehensive care plan. So i solved her and in two days she was not limping, she was walking real fast then a little after, could run. No thanks to vets. Then something else started to be wrong... She wasn't herself. Started mild calcium and was amping up her A and D, she full recoveered and was hunting and eating worms and foraging and all. Trilling happy.... Even had wannabe boyfriend rooster come over from across the street curious about her. Had her good to go... But there was something still off. She ate a few worms one day then gut stasis and she just stood around looking shocked while i tried my best to figure what she needed. Then those kids started and if it had been her time to go and her organs were fading, it was not obvious since she had needed catch up vitamins and minerals and her deficiencies were trying to pull her out of order.... then them kids started on her.... Then whatever a million vets did not give a darn. Well they darned the money. Not help my lil girl.

I appreciate this forum so much...I been researchijng and tryign to find chicken information some years back when my little Delta was a chick. This site even then told me more, the people here, the farm vets that DIY good chikcen health. So I am forever thankful. Never though thought my first roll out would be me about to mourn Delta.

It is so hard. Every part of this farm is her... Her love and how happy she had been trilling in this place or scurrying after bugs in that... Her energy and feel is all through. And yet today I havent got her anymore.. All my life for nearly these last ten years has been filtered through her. Her love her feeling of bing safe as she sat in my lap. I aint got much left, i have weathered so much being took from me and this....this trash crazy loss is more than I can about stand..... it is an ugly story too brutal to be told. Systemic injustice gone just about mad and to hell in the one trip.... neighbors who will not care less when they dont see Kato anymore. Two spoiled little brat girls who done my only thread to sanity and love wrong... there are no words. Her love moves throiugh me... the places where she used to hunt and dust bathe... Every crisis I pulled her through.... the ay i would hold her and she would cozy into the space between my shoulder and neck and fall asleleep... and I did not protect her enough..... and the love in me that no longer has any little Delta Dawn to go land upon.... That about makes me crazy and about to head to the asylum.....

but thank you. I feel your empathy from over here. Thank you all...

TL&DR: yeppers vets stink. Hens hide their ailments til it's red alert and field triage panic stations. Little girls need parenting on how to best respect what someone has left when it's all she has left and everything else is gone. And this site even this conversation where i am blabbing big time done more for me than most folks here or anyone i went to for real help.

 

[Joyce_Turner]

Hi Joyce, welcome to the site. Sorry about your hen. How old is she and what is her breed/weight? How often does she lay? Do you have more specifics on the type of calcium she was fed? As in what was the dosage and type of calcium ie, calcium citrate? Does your hen get grit?

Edit to add, also how is your hen acting right now?

Tagging the educators. @Wyorp Rock @Eggcessive @azygous

@alinas2010 Special thanks to you. I did not say yet how thankful i am to you. you were first on scene and very worried. I sensed it. I was all panic stations and rushing back and forth trying to make my girl live. So i accidentally neglected the special thanks you deserve. You were tagging people and trying to hard for me when trying to undo and redo my little girl's condition was blowing me away. Thank you for being there. If you accept it *friendly hug.* You are a good person and caring. Me too. We can sometimes get taken advantage of, but in the end we got what many do and so many many more don't have... Something about our spirit says we will give till it hurts, love and care, protect and help, while most the world around is toxic and void out of all of that. Stay caring and special. (For all the rest too who could have just bypassed me here, thanks to each and every one).

 

[Joyce_Turner]

I feel her presence, I feel her love. Now how to fill the physical space that was once full of her, the healthy her? Her voice, her trilling... the air that used to be gold and precious like nothing else can make? I am gone down dead with her. God help me I beg you....

 

[CrimsonIdol]

Thank you. Yes I will keep a clear mind. If I do take them to court then they don't need to be coming back at me saying there was any verbal altercation or antagonism.

Yes. My experiences are that so mny people who call themselves avian vets don't know what they are doing at all. So it fits with what you have said about limited knowledge even at college when it comes to makling vets. My intuition is that they spend more time being told how to milk a client, startng with the owner sure not welcome "triage": are they threat or can we milk them to bankrupcy... I even yelled at one these past days saying you learn how to invoice NOT investigate..... Only to be frowned at and told I was being verbally abusive. Guess some cant do truth it makes them brain fry and then they start projecting and gaslighting because that too is also easier than THOUGHT, CARE, COMPASSION.

...you go to a vet to learn you should never have gone to a vet...

I have been doing so much for her. I know how to do a whole lot. The bad point comes when oral vitamin A or calcium gluconate is needed. It's more than I can do. I can't do syringe yet. I have no idea. So that is where this loop out of hell started. She lost her vitamin A stores because of hr problems that she did carry. Then calcium stalled. She got sick, infection already had started, I was too late seeing the signs, she had salpingitis, lash eggs. That's beyond what I can solve. My antibiotics here were not enough. Then i was in that milk em dry vet loop. They should all be held accountable. They all killed my hen before them kids even had their turn. When finally i got antibiotics it was way too high dosage. I had to research and correct. Then she was staggering, had tetany because no one bothered to write up the comprehensive care plan. So i solved her and in two days she was not limping, she was walking real fast then a little after, could run. No thanks to vets. Then something else started to be wrong... She wasn't herself. Started mild calcium and was amping up her A and D, she full recoveered and was hunting and eating worms and foraging and all. Trilling happy.... Even had wannabe boyfriend rooster come over from across the street curious about her. Had her good to go... But there was something still off. She ate a few worms one day then gut stasis and she just stood around looking shocked while i tried my best to figure what she needed. Then those kids started and if it had been her time to go and her organs were fading, it was not obvious since she had needed catch up vitamins and minerals and her deficiencies were trying to pull her out of order.... then them kids started on her.... Then whatever a million vets did not give a darn. Well they darned the money. Not help my lil girl.

I appreciate this forum so much...I been researchijng and tryign to find chicken information some years back when my little Delta was a chick. This site even then told me more, the people here, the farm vets that DIY good chikcen health. So I am forever thankful. Never though thought my first roll out would be me about to mourn Delta.

It is so hard. Every part of this farm is her... Her love and how happy she had been trilling in this place or scurrying after bugs in that... Her energy and feel is all through. And yet today I havent got her anymore.. All my life for nearly these last ten years has been filtered through her. Her love her feeling of bing safe as she sat in my lap. I aint got much left, i have weathered so much being took from me and this....this trash crazy loss is more than I can about stand..... it is an ugly story too brutal to be told. Systemic injustice gone just about mad and to hell in the one trip.... neighbors who will not care less when they dont see Kato anymore. Two spoiled little brat girls who done my only thread to sanity and love wrong... there are no words. Her love moves throiugh me... the places where she used to hunt and dust bathe... Every crisis I pulled her through.... the ay i would hold her and she would cozy into the space between my shoulder and neck and fall asleleep... and I did not protect her enough..... and the love in me that no longer has any little Delta Dawn to go land upon.... That about makes me crazy and about to head to the asylum.....

but thank you. I feel your empathy from over here. Thank you all...

TL&DR: yeppers vets stink. Hens hide their ailments til it's red alert and field triage panic stations. Little girls need parenting on how to best respect what someone has left when it's all she has left and everything else is gone. And this site even this conversation where i am blabbing big time done more for me than most folks here or anyone i went to for real help.

For what it's worth, if you got 7 years out of an ISA brown you kinda hit the lottery. It sounds like she had a confluence of ailments, and while I agree vets generally dont know jack squat about chickens, it's amazing she lived to be that old in the first place.

Respectfully, I dont think you should sue your neighbors. I think you should never let them see any other chickens, but a lawsuit will sadly cost you lots of money and likely end in disappointment.

We are a rare breed on this forum. Most laugh at the idea of a pet chicken. Most are fools.

 

[CrimsonIdol]

Now go drink a bottle of wine and mourn your awesome hen who lived like a rock star!

 

[alinas2010]

@alinas2010 Special thanks to you. I did not say yet how thankful i am to you. you were first on scene and very worried. I sensed it. I was all panic stations and rushing back and forth trying to make my girl live. So i accidentally neglected the special thanks you deserve. You were tagging people and trying to hard for me when trying to undo and redo my little girl's condition was blowing me away. Thank you for being there. If you accept it *friendly hug.* You are a good person and caring. Me too. We can sometimes get taken advantage of, but in the end we got what many do and so many many more don't have... Something about our spirit says we will give till it hurts, love and care, protect and help, while most the world around is toxic and void out of all of that. Stay caring and special. (For all the rest too who could have just bypassed me here, thanks to each and every one).

You are so very welcome. And you are very kind @Joyce_Turner, but I must admit, I only know what it is like to need help. Here trying to help others, I only know those to call on for help. There are some very admirable, smart folks here with a lot of great experience and wisdom to share.

This is a wonderful community that I hope you will consider staying a part of. Perhaps you can find a bit of comfort in sharing stories of Delta Dawn with us or creating a thread dedicated to her here. She sure sounds like she was a wonderful companion. I can tell she was very special to you and that you are hurting immensely from her loss. Know that you gave her a wonderful life there on the farm with you and that you will see her again