Calculating Protein Percentages of Eggs and Peas

[Chris2018]

''Laying hens eat more feed than is needed to support egg production. As a result, it may be more profitable to limit their feed intake. Doing so would also reduce the likelihood of health problems that can also result when hens are overly fat.''

There limiting the hens feed intake by increasing the hens caloric intake.
Ive read that articular once before sometime back.

 

[X_and_Z]

Not at all.
The whigt is mainly by accumulating FAT in the fat tissue. And that is by converting Extra CARBOHYDRATE to fatty acids and glycerol in the liver If a diet lakes carbohydrate and is high in protein and fats, some of the amino acids and the glycerol of the triglycerides is used to manufacture Glucose by Gluconeogenesis metabolic pathway and the fatty acids is use to produce ketons in the the Ketosis pathway both compaunds used by the brain and other organs, that depend only on glucose as the source for energy, other organs uses directly the fatty acids in Beta oxidation, so they DONT ACCUMULATE but if you eat carbohydrate withe fats and protein they Automatically became the main source for energy and other will accumulate =gaining weight!
I know people that practice Paleo diet and they eat TREMENDOUS amount of fat and protein and they lost almost 15% of their whigt !

There are many quality studies on the Paleo/low carb diets that have debunked the idea that it is the type of calories that matter. Apparently people on high protein/fat diets end up reducing overall calories consumed without noticing.

 

[X_and_Z]

''Laying hens eat more feed than is needed to support egg production. As a result, it may be more profitable to limit their feed intake. Doing so would also reduce the likelihood of health problems that can also result when hens are overly fat.''

There limiting the hens feed intake by raining the hens caloric intake.
Ive read that articular once before sometime back.

Yes - the point being that chickens WILL eat more than their caloric needs and that limiting feed (even properly balanced feed) can be necessary. So obviously total calories and nutrient intake and perhaps psychology are involved in a chicken's decision to take one more bite...

 

[Akrnaf2]

There are many quality studies on the Paleo/low carb diets that have debunked the idea that it is the type of calories that matter. Apparently people on high protein/fat diets end up reducing overall calories consumed without noticing.

Not with my frinds! They get easly 4000 calories/day.

 

[Chris2018]

Yes - the point being that chickens WILL eat more than their caloric needs and that limiting feed (even properly balanced feed) can be necessary. So obviously total calories and nutrient intake and perhaps psychology are involved in a chicken's decision to take one more bite...

If they raised the calories in the feed to reduce feed intake there is no way that the hens are over eat. The whole point to increasing the calories in the feed is to get them to eat less..

 

[X_and_Z]

Not with my frinds! They get easly 4000 calories/day.

Apparently they were eating more calories previously or they have increased their caloric needs (are more active). There is also apparently almost no difference between the long term success rates of low carbohydrate vs low fat diets vs overall low calorie diets if you only count weight. There are less obvious differences - cholesterol, blood sugar, etc. though. I suspect that some diets are easier for a particular individual to stick to and those are the diets that work best for them.

 

[X_and_Z]

If they raised the calories in the feed to reduce feed intake there is no way that the hens are over eat. The whole point to increasing the calories in the feed is to get them to eat less..

Again, I am confused.

They are limiting the intake of the same feed because the hen is overeating.

Example: If the hen needs 100 calories per day and they have a feed that is 1000 calories/kg and the hen was eating 110g free feeding (110 calories) they are limiting the hen to 100g so she only eats 100 calories worth of feed.

If instead they start giving the hen a different feed that is 2000 calories/kg the hen would have to stop eating on her own after ingesting only 50g of food (100 calories). But we KNOW this hen was choosing to eat 110g/110 calories previously. I know my hens wouldn't reduce the volume of feed that drastically on their own just because it was 2x as calorie dense.

 

[Chris2018]

It can also cause visceral gout from the load on the liver. I think as many people over feed protein as there are those that feed insufficient amounts.
Mature roosters do just fine on 13% protein. Laying hens do best on 17% protein. 22% protein should be reserved for the first few weeks of a meat bird's life.
18-20% protein is about right for chickens from 0-12 weeks. They can be slowed down from there depending on their ultimate purpose.

Keep in mind that these percentages are more for a production/ commercial type egg laying fowl.
If I would put my Heritage Roosters (R.I. Reds) that I show and breed on a 13% protein there wouldn't me much to him just the same with my hens, they would not perform or look the way the do on a 17% feed.

 

[Beer can]

My chickens will eat and act starved no matter what I feed them, they're hogs, almost as bad as my kids

 

[Chris2018]

If they in fact used the same exact feed there are three other ways to limit the feed intake.
- 1 restricting feed intake by not offering the bird as much feed
- 2 raising the temperature of the room
- 3 increasing the hours of darkness
All 3 of these ways would affect egg production.