California Greys???

[Bullitt]

The response from Privett was received.

Here was my question:
"Greetings,
I noticed you have California Grays and Barred Leghorns listed on your catalog online. The picture demonstrations for each breed are identical to each other. Genetically, what is the difference between the two? I know Dryden's line of California Grays are supposed to breed true, while originally having Barred plymouth Rock rooster x White Leghorn hen in the breeding program."

Here was the reply from someone who only identified herself as Kelli:
"Michael,

Sorry it took so long but I was waiting for the hatchery manager to get back to me. His answer:

To produce the barred leghorn he used the barred gene from Dryden on the white leghorn. They are very similar so we just used the same picture for the California grays and barred leghorn. They do breed true.

Kelli"

Now that seems strange to me. Barred gene from Dryden....
On the White Leghorn.....

That doesn't tell me anything. Anyone else?

Barred Leghorn is a recognized breed, as mentioned before. But the hatchery could have used California Grays and White Leghorns to breed their own line of Barred Leghorns.

I think the only difference is the California Gray has a cuckoo pattern and Barred Leghorns are barred.

That is why I said before that the California Gray will never be recognized by the APA. The breed is too similar to the Barred Leghorn.

It would be interesting if you ordered some Barred Leghorns from Privett to see how they compare with the California Grays you bought for them. They might look exactly the same, just like the picture.

 

[Michael Apple]

Barred Leghorn is a recognized breed, as mentioned before. But the hatchery could have used California Grays and White Leghorns to breed their own line of Barred Leghorns.

I think the only difference is the California Gray has a cuckoo pattern and Barred Leghorns are barred.

That is why I said before that the California Gray will never be recognized by the APA. The breed is too similar to the Barred Leghorn.

It would be interesting if you ordered some Barred Leghorns from Privett to see how they compare with the California Grays you bought for them. They might look exactly the same, just like the picture.

You see? That annoys me with the disrespect towards what Dryden tried to accomplish. Here's an example of what California Grays produce at less than 27 weeks old:

 

[Bullitt]

You see? That annoys me with the disrespect towards what Dryden tried to accomplish. Here's an example of what California Grays produce at less than 27 weeks old:

That is a big egg. It's off the scale.

California Gray has never been a recognized breed, so James Dryden doesn't get the recognition he deserves.

Well, you know how great the California Gray is as a breed, and there are some other people who know.

 

[Michael Apple]

Barred Leghorn is a recognized breed, as mentioned before. But the hatchery could have used California Grays and White Leghorns to breed their own line of Barred Leghorns.

Breeding a California Gray to a White Leghorn is a California White.

 

[Bullitt]

Breeding a California Gray to a White Leghorn is a California White.

You know I know that a California White is created from a California Gray rooster and a White Leghorn hen. We had this discussion before. A California White is created with one crossing, or you can call it a hybrid.

Creating a breed requires a number of crossings. Privett could have used California Grays and White Leghorns and selectively bred to get the desired results for a Barred Leghorn. I was saying that based on what the person from Privett told you.

 

[Michael Apple]

You know I know that a California White is created from a California Gray rooster and a White Leghorn hen. We had this discussion before. A California White is created with one crossing, or you can call it a hybrid.

Creating a breed requires a number of crossings. Privett could have used California Grays and White Leghorns and selectively bred to get the desired results for a Barred Leghorn. I was saying that based on what the person from Privett told you.

Good. Viewers of the conversation won't get confused. Geneology, recessive traits, etc., require understanding. I've never seen a California Gray that was mottled. I've seen them with excessive white feathering, but not mottled. Both hens and roosters have barring and it becomes apparent as they mature. I thought the answer was quite vague from Privett, and will attempt to find out more.

 

[tommysgirl]

You see? That annoys me with the disrespect towards what Dryden tried to accomplish. Here's an example of what California Grays produce at less than 27 weeks old:

My girl started laying 2 weeks ago . She was 22 weeks old yesterday, and they are still pullet sized though there was that first nice one which turned out to be a double yolker. There seems to be a very gradual increase but I am looking forward to those enormous white eggs.

 

[Bullitt]

My girl started laying 2 weeks ago . She was 22 weeks old yesterday, and they are still pullet sized though there was that first nice one which turned out to be a double yolker. There seems to be a very gradual increase but I am looking forward to those enormous white eggs.

Do you just have one California Gray pullet?

 

[tommysgirl]

I have one in my mixed flock and my uncle has one in his. we live in different homes on the same property. I bought 5 from Privett and rehomed the other three, one of which turned out to be a cockerel! Someone messed up the auto sexing on that one but it would have got me too. I didn't notice any color difference in any of the 5 of them.

 

[enola]

I bought my CG pullets at Tractor Supply. They lay light brown/dark cream colored eggs. I am not happy about it. Either the hatchery or TSC screwed up, I don't know which one.