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How wonderful. This is what I hoped would happen for me. Oh, well.

The main reason I divorced my baby's father was that he insisted kids should cry til whatever they wanted fit into his schedule (well, there was the money thing, too, but never mind.)
 
The scientific data...for what it's worth...

Having worked in the medical field most of my life...all babies are individuals, the length of time they will sleep at night is partially a function of how much they currently weigh, and the length of time they will sleep at night is partially due to the brain formation which regulates the production of melatonin (a hormone that helps control sleep by light and dark as seen by the eyes, whether awake or asleep).

Weight plays a role because a larger baby (generally the data I've seen hovers around 8+ pounds) can take more calories in during waking hours and at that last feeding before bed... and those calories will hold them over longer.

Whether the extra calories in cereal plays a part in that...my jury is out on that topic. The intestinal lining often cannot process such large molecules (also why we don't normally feed cows milk to newborn humans) at a very young age.

My daughter was more than 4 weeks past her due date, weighed more than 8 pounds at birth and slept 11 hours at night from the first night she was born. And she was continually nursing on demand during her waking hours. By 8 weeks old she needed more calories than breast milk (and all breast milk has different nutritional content so you have to go with the individual needs here) and I started her on cereal...during the day and with a spoon. Rice constipated her so we changed to oatmeal cereal. By the time she was 4 months old she had acclimated to all the usual fruits...bananas, pears, apples, ...that I could make for her in addition to the cereal. Then she wanted everyone's milk glass at the table by the time she was 9 months old...so I tried it. Biggest mistake I ever made with feeding her. It took weeks for the diarrhea and vomiting to stop. To make a long story short...my daughter could process some things like cereal and fruit at a very young age, but something so seemingly simple as milk gave her guts a run for the money.

Melatonin production is important because until the day / night and sleep/ wake cycles are established it's a futile effort to try to regulate their schedules. So essentially as the baby gets older and the brain matures the cycle should establish a good sleep pattern. Now if everyone has been walking around the house on tiptoes while the baby sleeps until this point and then you suddenly drop the frying pan... I did laundry, vacuumed...all with her door open while she slet. That kid has slept through earthquakes and a helicopter landing right outside her bedroom window! So it pays to practice good sleep hygiene right from the start (do an Internet search on "sleep hygiene" for more info). Try to also establish normal light and dark cycles. You can play with that one a bit. If you need to go to bed earlier than it normally gets dark out, take the baby into a darkened room earlier. If you need the baby to be awake try keeping bright lights on even though it may be dark out. Just remember that you are messing with nature and it can backfire on you. Sleep cycles that are established in young brains may be difficult to change later on.

And lastly, something my pediatrician told me at the first appointment...whether you breast feed or bottle feed, always be sure that the baby is awake when you put them in the crib to sleep. If you nurse them until they are sleeping and then put them in the crib they have a more difficult time learning to put themselves back to sleep when they wake multiple times during the night, as all humans of any age do. So teaching them to put themselves to sleep from the start was key for us getting the baby to sleep during the night. And try not to use a pacifier to get them to sleep...when they wake during the night they will need that pacifier to get back to sleep...and it probably got knocked out of the crib and someone (read: MOM) will have to get up to retrieve the pacifier from under the crib so the baby can go back to sleep.

But all babies and all mothers are individuals and should be treated as such. What works for one baby doesn't work for all. The scientific data only represents "most" babies, not "all" babies.

Good luck!
 
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OMG.

If that doesn't prove the point of paying attention to what a particular baby needs, I don't know what might.
 
Ok, I agree with most of the post here. I breast fed all 5 of my kids. They are each individual people, (sorta say I guess). My first nursed and ate homemade baby food added at three monthes. He is 6'3" and 220 lbs. My 2nd ond is a daughter, (from?????) She nursed untill she was about 1 1/2 to 2 monthes old. Nothing was good for her. Not even the bottle, breast milk, or formula. She got her days and nights mixed up. My 3rd girl nursed just fine but by 3 monthes needed more, gave her homemade babyfood, doig just fine. My other daughter was nursed and nursed till she was 6 monthes no extras needed. My way of eating never changed. My youngest was the same way he nursed till 6 monthes and is doing great. I found if you nurse make your own baby food because what your baby is getting from your milk is what your eating. Just blender to a puree then feed, or try the store bought. It is up to you as a mom, your gonna be able to read your child. If you think he/she needs more then by all means mix it with breast milk or formula, but I have to agree if you do do it by spoon. They may confuse food in bottle and not want bottle or breast otherwise. Best of luck to you and yours. You are the one to know your child the best.
 
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Nothing wrong with putting the baby in the crib while still awake, I agree. Mine would often sleep best if I did this, then patted his back til he fell asleep. When he was 3 or 4, he would fall asleep as I combed his hair with my fingers, at his request. Whatever works, on this. If it is heavy metal or the Beatles, who cares....

But I don't buy the rest of this. Normal sleep does not include waking multiple times during the night; it is a vacillation between dreaming sleep and dreamless sleep, but not with wakeful periods in between.
 
I didn't put cereal in the bottle because I was scared she would choke on it, but I did give her infant cereal much sooner than was recommended. She was hungry and the formula just wasn't getting her full, so I decided on my own to try a little cereal. I had no problems. I don't remember exactly when I did this because my daughter is now 10.
 
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Exactly. We know when our kid is hungry. Not good to feed extra unless we see that he is, but of course we need to, if that is the case.
 
I think that liquids belong in bottles and foods belongs on spoons.

If baby is hungry enough for cereal, please give with a spoon.

Also, baby tummies need time to develop all of the enzymes that are needed to break down foods, even cereals. And the muscles in the esophagus need to develop the ability to move food down into the stomach.

I dont believe in the cookie cutter approach to parenting but I think in some cases, we have to adhere to guidelines.

That being said, good luck in whatever you decide
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You have received a lot of advice on here but listen to what the pediatrician advised (that doesn’t mean you have to follow all of his advice) and like another poster said use your own judgment. I always listened to what they kids pediatricians told me but formed my own conclusions by talking to experienced moms and did what I felt best. I have two kids that are 18 months apart and there was a big difference in what their docs advised. Also keep in mind that all kids are different so what works for one mom may not work for all moms.

With that said… my son always seemed to be hungry so I started putting a little infant cereal with his morning and night bottle’s when he was 6 or 8 weeks old and it REALLY helped. He slept better and actually would get full! My daughter on the other hand didn’t need it and she was I guess about 6 months old before she had cereal.
 
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YAH! An Adell Davis FAN!!!!!!!!

I LOVE her books! She was ahead of her time! I recommend them to EVERYONE who is having babies! I followed her advice, gave my kids the tigers milk when I started feeding them solids (6 mo.) and they loved it!

Those of you who had issues of the baby NOT getting full from nursing; maybe the baby was not getting the hind milk, that is the stuff full of fat. Also, maybe you needed to nurse more often to build up you milk supply. Although, I did have a child who would nurse every 2 hours until I started feeding him solids.......

Good luck! Read Adell Davis! You will be right on track!
 

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