The Golden Comets I would blame simply the breed for the large eggs, rather than the protein. I feed 21% protein to my Barred Rocks and never get over a very Large egg from them. Typically a small Large.
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Agree. 18% is not high Protein in my Opinion. Just enough for a Duel Purpose chicken. GCThe Golden Comets I would blame simply the breed for the large eggs, rather than the protein. I feed 21% protein to my Barred Rocks and never get over a very Large egg from them. Typically a small Large.
Thanks. I was also wondering what kind of dish people used since any dish I put out gets walked in and kicked/scratched over.I feed a certain amount of feed per day, and I don't really want to mess with adding a certain amount of oyster shell to it daily. So I feed my feed and I leave a container of shells out. Simple. I actually got a couple cute baby pig feeders free from a friend that work quite nicely for them.
Great questions. I sometimes feel like most of the feed recommendations are based on what the mfgs want us to believe. Kind of like the claims they make about dog food.The general recommendation is to NOT put it in their regular feed ration. If they have to go to a separate container to get their OS, it is more of a deliberate choice than if it is simply dumped into their regular feed.
Is this an old wives tale? Are we doing it this way b/c this is what some one said we should do? Have there been any studies done to see how much Ca++ a hen will ingest if the OS is put into her feed vs. fed separately? Further, any studies done to compare egg shell quality with hens on:
16% feed w/o extra calcium but OS provided free choice
vs.
16% feed w/o extra calcium but OS added to their feed
vs.
16% layer feed with Ca++ at 3.5 - 4.5%, no extra OS provided
Before I got the pig feeders, I used square no-tip dog bowls with a brick on top, towards the back, as they love to dig in it and turn it over.Thanks. I was also wondering what kind of dish people used since any dish I put out gets walked in and kicked/scratched over.Plus, I've never actually seen them eat any of the oc I put out.
Great questions. I sometimes feel like most of the feed recommendations are based on what the mfgs want us to believe. Kind of like the claims they make about dog food.
My feeling is that most commercial feeds we get are the same as what the big commercial operations use, just bagged smaller. It costs more to formulate separate feeds. Which is why most Layer rations are 16% protein - that's the amount necessary for a flock of Leghorns to keep laying well. Which, in my opinion, isn't sufficient for most large fowl dual purpose, and why I feed higher.Great questions. I sometimes feel like most of the feed recommendations are based on what the mfgs want us to believe. Kind of like the claims they make about dog food.
Exactly. I think people are overdoing it with excessively high protein diets.This is one of the reasons why I'll not keep production hybrids. Sometimes too much of a good thing is not a good thing. IMO, this pertains to excess protein in the diet, as well as birds who are bred to lay a huge egg, while possessing a small frame, and being thrifty with their feed conversion.
When I was feeding a 18% Layers feed, I had Oyster Shells in a separate container. I didn't mix it with Scratch or toss on the ground. I used to buy the 5# bag and I marked the date I opened it.I've never actually seen them eat any of the oc I put out.