Can anyone tell me is this a prolapse?

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by MrsCluck, Jun 1, 2010.

  1. MrsCluck

    MrsCluck Out Of The Brooder

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    Hi all, been reading all the posts re:prolapse and am following the care advice given.

    Our little Jenny hen (bantum mix) which we bought about 18-20 weeks ago has never laid an egg yet and would have thought she would be by now. We thought we were on the verge of laying a couple of days ago as she kept sitting in the nestbox but coming out. Out of curiousity I picked her up for closer inspection and this is what I found - see pictures.

    Can she have a prolapse without having laid an egg? She is eating an drinking fine and walking around as normal. None of the other hens have pecked at her but I have now brought her in following advice from the other forums. I have washed the area with salt water and used anusol and honey on the area and have out of precaution given her antibiotics in case this is just an infection. I would not be able to use my finger to examine the vent as she shows obvious dicsomfort if I use any pressure in this area.

    So as I say I have brought her in and darkened her surroundings (even though she is not laying and never has) also changed diet to water and wheat.
    Any thought/advice would be welcome please.


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  2. Southernbelle

    Southernbelle Gone Broody

    Mar 17, 2008
    Virginia
    When my Silkie hen prolapsed, it looked like an egg encased in membrane was hanging out of her vent. She looks more eggbound in that picture, but what is that little plug in the 2nd picture?

    Does she have any signs of being an internal layer? Hard abdomen? Yolk-like goo dripping from her vent?

    Does she have access to calcium? Calcium is good for the shells, but more importantly it also helps the oviduct contract, making it easier to pass the eggs.

    I hope she feels better soon!
     
  3. MrsCluck

    MrsCluck Out Of The Brooder

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    I took the 3 pictures at the same time so not sure why they all look so different - she is passing poo and there is a slight crust there if that is the plug you refer to - if I push to hard to clean she shows her discomfort.

    They are all fed normally on layers mash which I mix with boiled water and cooked and crushed egg shells as I heard was good for calcium. They also have free access to Oyster shell.

    Can you recommend anything else?

    I cannot feel any hard abdomen and have had no goo dripping from vent - maybe I will take her to the vet tomorrow - our vet is not taht good with poultry and I was hoping the antibiotics would kick in and take the soreness away.
     
  4. MotherJean

    MotherJean Chillin' With My Peeps

    From Practical Poultry -
    http://www.practicalpoultry.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1116747976
    Quote:Egg bound hens
    A hen is said to be egg bound when she fails to lay her egg
    This is a common condition, and may result from inflammation of the
    oviduct, malformed or double yolker egg, or a too large egg in a young
    pullet

    The bird seems very restless
    She will drink little and eat little
    She will tend to stand all hunched up
    She visits the nest regularly in an attempt to lay her egg
    Hew oviduct may end up protrude due to excessive pushing by her to eject
    the egg; internal haemorrhage or exhaustion may occur and the fowl may
    die
    She may smell badly
    Her vent will look quite red and protrude
    She may have faecal matter that has built up behind the egg, if you see
    white liquid that will be her urates trying to pass (urine in chickens)

    Sit her in a tub of warm soapy water
    Make sure the vent is submerged for about 30 minutes, this may seem like
    a long time, but you have to relax the vent area and make is subtle for
    the egg to pass through, it really does help the hen, 85% of the time
    this will be all that you will need to do for her and the egg will pass
    out with a little push from her
    You can rub some lubricant around the vent area if you think that may
    help too, KY jelly, petroleum jelly, Vaseline or Olive Oil all work fine.
    Make sure you isolate her from the other hens, or they will peck at her
    vent causing more damage

    Put her into an isolation cage, put plenty of news paper down first and
    then put heated towels down they will act like a heat pad for her, no
    drafts when she is wet or she will catch a chill
    You can heat up towels in your microwave, works a treat
    If you have a heat pad that would be even better, put plenty of towels
    over it or it will get messy
    Leave her for a little while to see if she passes the egg, if not, repeat
    the warm water and soap again

    Some people just use the heating pads, this sometimes seems to relax the
    muscles and allow the egg to slip out

    If this doesn?t work, you may have to resort to removing the egg
    manually, not a nice task, and she will complain about what you are doing
    bitterly, you will need two people to do this task

    Using KY jelly, Petroleum jelly or Vaseline, insert your finger in the
    vent
    With your other hand you can press gently on her abdomen moving the egg
    down the oviduct towards the cloaca
    Once you can see the egg, if it won?t pass, then rupture the egg and
    gently remove all the shell
    Some have suggested you use a sharp instrument, I would not recommend
    this at all it could result in causing the hen internal injuries
    The shell of the egg will be very sharp when broken and could also damage
    the chicken internally
    Once you have broken the shell, make sure you remove every particle
    carefully
    The cloaca should then be washed with a weak warm water/salt solution,
    this is to make sure all the egg contents and shell has been removed from
    inside the hen, if it isn?t it could cause bacteria to start growing
    inside her, and then you?ve got an even bigger problem to solve

    Once the egg has ejected you will want to keep an eye on her for a while
    There may be another egg backed up in her oviduct system, especially if
    she lays an egg every day or every other day

    Sometimes they absorb the egg, but this is very unlikely and very unusual
    If you can?t find the egg and it has gone from the hen, more than likely
    she has eaten it shell and all

    If it has ruptured inside her, you should look for small pieces of shell,
    or evidence of any cuts around the vent area
    Just remember while your looking and sticking your finger in places she
    would prefer you didn?t, the egg shells can be quite sharp and may cut
    you and her
    If you do find any cuts around her cloaca, rinse with hydrogen peroxide
    Watch her for listlessness, dull eyes, and signs of fever
    Infection can come on pretty quick

    Keep a close eye on her, this could happen again to her and she will need
    immediate action to fix the problem

    How to help prevent the hen from laying any more eggs
    If there is any small prolapse gently push it back into the chicken with
    your fingers.
    The chicken should then be put on a maintenance diet of wheat and water
    and put in a dark cage.
    Leave the hen there for a week.

    However, it is important to restrict the chickens diet to maintenance
    only for possibly a couple of months. This does work!! Alternative to
    maintenance diet is feeding the chicken enough to keep it alive, moving
    and keeping warm plus enough extra feed for it to produce eggs.

    You may find that by reducing the feed it brings on a forced molt

    By reducing feed intake so that the bird has just enough feed to keep it
    alive, moving and keeping warm you are feeding for maintenance only. The
    chicken will not lay eggs and so give it the best chance of recovery.
     
  5. MrsCluck

    MrsCluck Out Of The Brooder

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    Thank you - I have soaked her this morning for a good half an hour, and put vaseline around and slightly inside the vent. I can see some blood when you push on this sore area that is behind the swollen part in her vent towards the rear. I have warmed a towel and she has been sitting quietly all day in the warm and dark. Should I do this process several times a day and how long before I have to try the egg removal - although I have had a very good feel around her today and cannot feel anything like an egg.
     

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