My mom loves these little buggers and I don't have much use for them. But when mom ask you to raise a few bantams for her, who can tell mom no? Anyways I got these for her at a feed store as straight run bantams. No breed or sex indicated and these two I have no idea as to what they are. The gray one at one time was the ugliest bird I have ever seen. It's not too pretty now but is actually about 100% better looking than it once was. The smaller one is probably the meanest one I have ever had. Thanks in advance for ya'lls help in identifying these "things".