Can you do a Coturnix x Button?

[lowcountrypoultry]

Do you think they would be sterile?

And I was thinking about creating a better color coturnix by using some genes from BQ.

 

[monarc23]

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great minds think a like huh!

I would suspect they might be sterile....but think of this. When a horse is bred to a donkey it's a mule, and it's accepted that almost ALL mules are sterile..however not all are. There has been cases of mules producing young...hold on let me find an article....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule

scrool down to the bottom where its titled "fertile mules".


I think in genetics, not everything is known or every will be fully known. People say that the pattern "merle" in dogs is dominant, and can't just show up in a breeding where no merles are present...however, if that's the case how was the first ever merle produced? See what im getting at...what's dominant or recessive, sometimes can become the other, atleast that's how i see it. So, infertile can become fertile given the right try. No harm in trying, and not trying just leaves questions. I say go for it, I am!

 

[Akane]

Usually species don't cross without intervention. Lots of people run various fowl and never see crosses. They just don't think to mate with each other, are too different of size/shape to accomplish it easy, or not all the sperm and eggs mix properly so the odds are low. To make lots of hybrids for specific purposes they use artificial insemination. Such as the guinea x chickens they are trying to use as meat birds. Just throwing 2 species together even if they can create offspring doesn't have very good odds. Not that it can't happen but it doesn't happen often. I wouldn't count on it.

 

[lowcountrypoultry]

I still would love to see it happen,

I always thought they were kinda the same quail, just a little domesticated.

I think I am going to try

Coturnix Male x Button Female

and

Button Male x Coturnix Female

I think the C.M x B.F will work better though.

Monarch- If you get anything. Please tell me.

If it can't work I am still going to try to create a black coturnix, even though I have no idea were to start

 

[monarc23]

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I sure will! That's what my plans are for right now, coturnix male to button female. I mean the males are bigger in size, if the hens get harmed in the mating process (ripping off too many feathers and what not) i'll take them out but if they get along fine like they are now (they are all at sexual maturity but no mating yet, i assume because of the time of year it is) then that's great. I've thought about AI, however I tried it on a male to see if I could do it, and I don't have the magic AI hand i guess because just like when I checked the foamy white stuff on the coturnix for the first time I just got pooed on

LOL! Sooo! I'm hoping that they reproduce by themselves, however if I ever learn the proper way to do AI collection sucessfully I'd deffiantly try that method.

I also agree, even though they are difference in size, from egg to adult, they look very simliar, same pattern and everything, well except the male BQ ofcourse gets way prettier than the male Coturnix.

Ooo a true black coturnix.....i would have no idea where to start either but i wonder if British range (tibetan) coturnix would be a good starting point, they are pretty dark...however not black.

 

[Mrs MIA]

SamG347 was going for black coturnix at one point, but I don't know where he planned to start. He's not raising quail anymore, that I know of.

I just look at the sheer size difference between the adult birds, and I just don't see it happening.

But I could be wrong.

 

[lowcountrypoultry]

Yeah sam told me he got almost black but more of a really dark brown..

I wish I would have bought his semi-black stock

But I think if they did produce fertile offspring you would only need like two chicks with the black gene to get what you needed right?

 

[SamG347]

Hey dont fret or frown yet yall....SG COTURNIX isnt gone...just on hold. Next year when I have my job and everything goes as planned...I will once again dive into the quail breeding. Dont you worry about that!!!

 

[Mrs MIA]

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[lowcountrypoultry]

SamG347 wrote:
Hey dont fret or frown yet yall....SG COTURNIX isnt gone...just on hold. Next year when I have my job and everything goes as planned...I will once again dive into the quail breeding. Dont you worry about that!!!

Sam, your coturnix are HUDGE. They are about 1/2 times bigger than Lake Cumberlands.

Do you still have the same bloodline around or will you get new ones?​