Can you ID us?

[AquaEyes]

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"Purple Cameo" is "Peach." But that chick looks darker than what I've seen here of those mutations. I'm guessing these were not labeled very well, or perhaps it meant "Cameo X Purple."

Really it has not been proven, a few think that maybe the case. chick doesn't look to be peach, its looks purple, the lighting could be off.

My guess the egg label is what both parents are.

It's also never been proven to be a single mutation.

If Clifton told me the truth about his offspring from his trio, then it's not genetically possible that Peach is a separate, unique mutation. A few other people PM'ed me back during the combining colors thread and have set up test-matings among their peafowl. I told them what they'd get if Peach is one mutation, versus what they'd get if it was a combination of two. But the information presented out there regarding the history of Peach is not consistent with the model of it being a single mutation. And I get agreement from the man who bred the first one.

If you want to try your hand at making your own Peach, it will take two generations. Make a male that is split to both Purple and Cameo, and keep breeding from him (to anything OTHER than Peach, to confirm that I'm right). Eventually, you'll find a female Peach chick. My guess is that the odds are about 3 in 200, if the 3% chance of crossover at any given locus probability is accurate for peafowl (3%, divided in half, so as to get a female).

Perhaps no one wants to admit it's possible or investigate it further because it would mean that people could make their own Peach -- instead of spending money on a relatively new "single mutation."

ETA

To avoid hijacking this thread any further (my apologies to the OP), I will began a new thread.

 

[Fowler Hencock]

I'm no genetics expert, either, but the fact of the matter is, every different mutation occurred spontaneously as a result of two birds breeding who were not of that color or pattern. If you breed enough different birds together, you'll eventually end up with a representative of each color and pattern mutation. And probably a few new ones as well. It's just the law of averages.

 

[deerman]

I wonder for some time about peach being a purple cameo, i didn't raise cameo , only purple and peach. For someone to prove it, you are looking at 4 to 6 yes, from the start. Now as far as making your own peach, Lot of peach out there now, cheaper to buy a peach than spent 6 years producing one . For sure if adding a new pattern in peach ,start with a peach.

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Thanks for the color ID help. The brown toned one passed away with in the last hour. No idea why, was fine this morning when I put in fresh water and fresh game starter crumbles. Was fine late morning when I took them their egg yolk and meal worm treat.

The white toned one seems ok for now, will hope there isn't something going on that will claim it too.

Shellie

 

[Fowler Hencock]

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Odds for white are 25% ,but thats over a large number of birds...

So that brings up another question. We know that white is a masking color, and it can mask any different combination of colors, and possibly patterns? Do whites carry both the pied and the white eye gene?

Also, I hear all the time that white x white = white chicks. However, since we know that both of my whites (one male and one female, judging by the size difference in siblings hatched on the same day) are "split" to cameo black shoulder pied, is it possible that if mated, they would have a chance to throw a cameo black shoulder pied? And is it different with whites that are masking sex linked colors?