Captured a Vicious Predator in Our Perimeter Fence Today (Pics)

[speckledhen]

Okay, not sure why the definition for me, but thanks. I do know what a beagle is and that they do chase rabbits, bred to do so, in fact. I've seen them chase deer on my place as well, along with other dogs in a group. If this was a beagle pup as opposed to a coonhound pup, then it was probably a tad older than I thought by a couple of months. Looking at the set of its front legs in the photo I took, I'm leaning toward beagle, not coonhound.

 

[chooniecat]

I so agree with op. I don't try to find who owns it(unless they have ID on collar-then owners get hell from me) because I personally would call nearest shelter first thing to alert them of MY missing dog AS any caring owner should do. If you truely care for your dog you do NOT let them roam and risk getting shot by neighbors(understandably- I shoot if theres ANY predatory behavior in dog on my property). You did the nice thing. I also am not "sweet" to a known neighbors dog because if I AM the dog would continue to come to my property. My dogs are watched at ALL times and listen when I tell them(or else they're in their kennel).

 

[speckledhen]

Interesting link that has some state park rules:

http://www.animallaw.info/articles/arusdogschasewildlifetable.htm

It includes this Federal Law:

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[chickened]

Cynthia is right, there are several laws against freeranging dogs. It is unlawful for people to run or train dogs during nesting season in various public and private land. There are leash laws also that make it unlawful.

Where I grew up if a dog(s) were even seen during hunting season (except a hound) way out in the woods away from homes it was usually shot.

There is a lot of unseen damage to wildlife from such irresponsible acts. Groundnesting birds destroyed and abandoned nests, aborted fetuses from undue stress and the one I have personally seen a pack of dogs laying panting at the site of a deer they ran to death and never touched it or attempted to eat it. Those dogs paid a hefty price and some were purebred high dollar dogs with collars.

My property is fenced and fortunately I live on a busy highway that usually takes care of strays so I do not have to. They last about 3 days on average before they get hit usually by a logtruck... kersplat!!

 

[loanwizard]

Wow! Y'all have been very busy since last night. I am afraid that I am going to have to leave you Ol Hen's cheeping about what a bad person I am.

I personally think this has been blown a little out of proportion, on both sides, but I will try to make my exodus in as quiet a manner as I know how.

I built the kennel to house the dogs. They are in it every night and some days.

I am going to extend an olive branch here. You gals, I am assuming that you are all women firing away, are right. There are laws against letting my dogs run, and an untrained beagle will track anything. Since I am not with them, I can only assume they aren't chasing deer. There are also laws about seatbelts and speeding and though I am not admitting anything....

My good beagle was trained and broken of tracking deer. Not by me, but by the person that sold her to me, with a shock collar.... go ahead, tell me all about the cruelty of a shock collar. I broke them of chasing the farm cats... I think.

My good beagle trained the other two or perhaps they taught her bad habits. I will find out come October.

I have one neighbor with cattle and horses which the beagles don't seem to bother. I am the only one with livestock. They have dogs, but there have been no issues.

I am sorry that I have made you feel that you have been attacked. All I thought I was doing was responding to a post and offering my opinion.

Perhaps I let my dogs run because I have too many and don't have the time to exercise them properly. For a long time I didn't get any beagles because I hated that they are used for 4 months out of the year and were destined for kennels the rest of the time. Like I said earlier, I have nice kennels for them, but have you ever looked at the sad eyes of a hound dog? Maybe they talked me into letting them run about like teenagers. Perhaps I will rethink this. That said, I have had lengthy discussions with my closest neighbors, and with a career of reading people, believe that they are genuine when they say they don't mind.

Anyhow, trying to be graceful here, sorry to those I have offended, and honestly, it kinda hurts that some here think that I am an A**, or that I have horrible husbandry skills.

Have a nice weekend.

Shawn

 

[speckledhen]

Quote: Wrong, Shawn. I think Ed, in particular, may object to your assumption. I rather object to being called an "Ol Hen"-might as well have called the lot of the participants on this thread "Old Biddies". When you try to make a point, it really doesn't help your case to name-call and talk down to folks.

You keep doing what you're doing with your dogs if you like, but coming onto a thread where a dog trespassed and the OP expressed the sentiment that it would have been shot if it had been an adult and then saying you let your dogs run all over creation, including neighbors' property and state land, doesn't seem the best course of action to me. I mean, just saying, you know?




*** Here, again, is my disclaimer: For some who take exception to a moderator posting as a member, this is a thread started by a lowly member of BYC, not acting in capacity as a moderator, just a flock owner who shoots trespassing dogs who are a threat to her flock-just to be clear...

 

[Cetawin]

Loanwizard at least be MAN enough to say old hens crackling if that is what you wanted to say because I could respect that. However, as clearly you suffer some syndrome which coincides with a lack of jewels, height, brains, morals and common courtesy skills...I was correct in my assumption....you are a nasty little man with no respect for others or women. You border on vile to me. You sped past irresponsible dog owner straight to vile little man sir

 

[chickened]

Shawn... purposefully putting your pets in the gun sights of a neighbor who will do what they need to protect their pets from irreparable harm would be considered neglect by most people.

The country is not a wilderness for a pet to be unleashed to run at large to compensate for a life of imprisonment or to reduce a guilt complex of an owner that feels their pets need space and exercise.

I bet your neighbors are good neighbors and not wanting to stir the pot. I am also going to assume you are new to the area.

I know a few houndsmen and was one once and never would a houndsmen condone what you say you do with your hounds.

I have neighbors with a ton of cats, I have never told any of them once that I shoot everyone that comes on my land even when they press me but I assure you I have shot plenty.

Now I do think you care for your dogs and if you really do you will listen to what you are saying and really think about the harm that you may be doing to them,and you may reconsider what you do. If all your neighbors were to tell you they will shoot your dogs if they step one foot on thier land would that change your actions? just saying.

 

[speckledhen]

I guess this thread has gone about as far as it's going to go, unfortunately. Thanks to some of you for trying to be the voice of reason and appreciating the actions we took upon finding our potential chicken predator inside the perimeter. Will ask that it be closed now...till the next time, and I hope that is not going to be a SSS situation, because we both really love dogs.