Chicago Chicken Ban ON HOLD

Hi Linda-

Good news on the reprieve!!!

I would continue to focus on the CHICKENS ARE PETS angle. Use that combined with the RATS EAT DOG DROPPINGS sign to drive home the fact that, like any other pet, hens that are well-cared for do not cause any community problems. I found this worked very well here, and the tables started turning when we started saying "PET HENS" rather than "BACKYARD CHICKENS". The biggest hurdle you have is in getting people past their preconceived ideas of chickens as noisy, smelly, dirty, nasty farm animals. Your one vocal opposer, Edie (?), reminds me of our lone loud oppostion here, one lady who just hated chickens.

I found that once we started really focusing on the fact that the HENS are PETS, almost any argument could be won by pointing out that other animals are not banned as pets, even though they all have potential problems if not properly cared for.
SMELL- my 6 hens make less poop than two medium dogs. Pet owners must be responsibe and take proper care of their animals. If the dog owner left the poop all over his yard, it would smell worse than any chicken poop. I said about a million times, "WE're not talking about chickens raised in a farm environment, folks, where the pen gets cleaned only once a year.... we're talking about hens raised as PETS, like a dog, cat, or caged parrot, and cleaned every other day!"
PREDATORS- pet hens kept in the manner we are proposing will not attract predators any more than a rabbit in a backyard rabbit hutch.
.........etc. You get the idea. The whole rats/poop thing falls into this argument.

You just say, hey, lets draft a set of laws that make sure hens will be properly cared for, and then neighbors will be protected.

Also, I hate to say it, but if it's looking iffy, I'd say ban roosters. That's most people's big issue: noise. We had to make compromises here, but if it's no chickens or limiting it to 6 hens, I'll take the 6 hens.

Of course, focusing on the pet aspect means not so much attention on the immigrant population. I don't know what your politics are like in Chicago, but that was an argument that I chose to downplay here. The city councilors were mostly concerned about property values, looking "downscale", and offending neighbors. They could care less about the few hispanic and Asian families in town who were quietly raising chickens. In fact it would have made them all the more eager to ban chickens, I fear.

Anyway---- keep up the good work. I know its a major PITA. Honestly, I spent about 20 hours per week ALL SUMMER LONG on winning our battle here. It was exhausting, stressful, and a whole lot of work. But worth it in the long run!

Stacey
 
I think it is so funny that people have these ideas that they are smelly, nasty farm animals. I never had chickens before this past spring and I could probably count on one hand the number of times I saw chickens in my lifetime. Yet I have never once thought of them as nasty even before I got them. I wonder what prompts people to think like this, what are the grounds for these un-researched views. I think that this is something we should explore.

I think Sea chick is right. Friendly "PET" terminology is the best way to go when discussing the hens. It reinforces in their mind PET, PET, PET.

Oh and I know I saw somewhere a mention of PETA. Please do not bring them into this. They are a very diverse group of people. Some good hearted and some just flipping darn crazy! I think you will go further if you do not play the "rescue" card.

GOOD LUCK! I really hope you and the other chicken keepers of Chicago win, you definitely deserve to.
 
I just saw this on Foxnews, one more reason not to live in Chicago, or freedom what freedom in America. I guess Chicago's city hall has never heard of composting, they should because this ban seems like a big pile of manure. As for noise from chickens what noise my girls make peeping noises and pecking noises, unlike dogs which bark or policticians which spew forth tripe from their mouths. Glad there is a hold on the ban. Maybe you should elect new officuals, fire the entire bunch of chicken heads, oh wait thats an insult to chickens...

Famer Mack
 
Oh and I know I saw somewhere a mention of PETA. Please do not bring them into this. They are a very diverse group of people. Some good hearted and some just flipping darn crazy! I think you will go further if you do not play the "rescue" card.

Anyway---- keep up the good work. I know its a major PITA. Honestly, I spent about 20 hours per week ALL SUMMER LONG on winning our battle here. It was exhausting, stressful, and a whole lot of work. But worth it in the long run!

Oh the difference one letter makes.......​
 
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Sad, but true
 
I found the PETA plug it was in another post about the same topic. Sorry. Not to Hijack the thread but I think PETA is a PITA.
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Just my personal opinion, no offense to anyone.
 
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I am sure you will have plenty to show them.
May I sugest that you come up with the number of birds a person could have.
"YOU SAY 8 HENS AND THEY WILL COME BACK WITH 6"
I am sure its the numbers that worry most people.
I have 60 silkies in the country and it is a lot of work to keep them perfect.
When I had six birds they were no problem at all.
Also sugest that people who raise a few birds as pets also plant small gardens and compost.
Mention they are people who strive to go green/organic.
That the small amount of POO will most likly be recycled and put to good use.
I have found that if you give people another out in a delema they will gladly take it.
Take in some pictures of well kept small flocks "A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS"
And will get ride of the notion that chickens are a stinky dirty mess.


Yes the rodents will carry off the poo. But it is responsible chicken care that will prevent a rodent problem.
Setting traps, making sure they keep the feed in rodent proof containers.
 
I think you should walk into the next meeting with your prettiest and tamest girl under your arm, plop her down on a table, and dare them to make you get rid of her!
 
SeaChick really lays out the best approach: for people like me, my chickens are pets, not farm animals.

What makes the situation here in Chicago a bit different than what others have faced is that it currently IS legal to raise chickens and that privilage is threatened. The current ordinance about keeping chickens is...well...there IS no ordinance. Having no clear, explicit law WAS working OK.

Now there are apparently issues with keeping chickens popping in certain neighborhoods. While it's true that many of the problems cited (e.g. filth, pest control issues, slaughter, and noise) are already illegal, clearly some people aren't following the standard of chicken care that is required in a dense, urban area.

No surprise there, since there are people who don't follow the standard for DOG or CHILD care that is required in a dense, urban area.

While I may have photos of well-kept chickens, opponents have photos of poorly-kept chickens.

This is a slightly different challenge than SeaChick faced, but I think the strategy is similar.

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A couple more articles and things that I missed posting yesterday (because I was SOOOO tired from all the work + lack of sleep):

Associated Press story

Associated Press update late yesterday

Chicago Public Radio interview

BBC Radio interview [Click on "Listen again: Thursday;" Program time at the start of the interview is 1:25:30, ends at 1:30:00, following a guy talking about the Sopranos.]

The above stories don't all involve interviews with me; I'm noting them here for those of you who want to keep track of this info for your own purposes.
 
what about pigeons? again these are pets but I'm sure there are a few carier pigeons keep within the city limits

Gald I live in the country

Farmer MacK
 

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