Chick unable to get up and heavy breathing.

sundance300

In the Brooder
11 Years
Jun 19, 2008
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1) What type of bird , age and weight.
Bantam, not sure what type exactly. All the hens decided to brood in the same nest.
Around six weeks. I didn't mark down her hatch day.
She's of good flesh. I wouldn't go her skinny by any lengths. She's a little heavier than her broodmates of like-size.

2) What is the behavior, exactly.
I noticed her breathing hard two days ago. I was worried about heat stroke, it was hot even in the shade. Added cool water to their container just in case and watched them.
Next day I noticed her breathing hard and staggering. I brought her in the house and started giving her electrolytes. I also started her on a sulfur-based antibiotic (see #7) because of a recent wave of illness. I made sure she had plenty of water and food made available.
I noticed when she tries to get up and struggles that she poos (normal). Not sure if that's relevant or not.

She was running a fever last night, she's still alittle warm but not bad.

Her eyes appear clear, skin color looks good. She sleeps a little more than usual.


3) Is there any bleeding, injury, broken bones or other sign of trauma.
No.

4) What happened, if anything that you know of, that may have caused the situation.
I was initially worried about heat stroke, but this is day three and she's only worsening.

5) What has the bird been eating and drinking, if at all.
Chick starter and 16% layer crumbles. She did eat, though I didn't see her drink. I've been giving her fluid via syringe. Very little of that.
I may give her soy-based puppy formula if she quits eating. Not the best thing, but it helped two other chicks.

6) How does the poop look? Normal? Bloody? Runny? etc.
Normal

7) What has been the treatment you have administered so far?
Sulfadimethoxine, electrolytes.

8 ) What is your intent as far as treatment? For example, do you want to treat completely yourself, or do you need help in stabilizing the bird til you can get to a vet?
I'm going to have to do this myself. Vets have proven themselves incompetent where 'exotics' are concerned. I've dealt with those idiots enough to know it's a waste of time.

9) If you have a picture of the wound or condition, please post it. It may help.

10) Describe the housing/bedding in use
They are kept in a open air cage with a tray underneath it. I use pine bedding in the bottom, changed everyday. They are brought in at night or bad weather.
During the day they're placed out into an open air wire cage which is moved to keep them out of their droppings.

A little backstory.
I bought over 30 chicks from a guy (Wyandottes, Aracauna, Rock bar, bantam mix). He said they were vaccinated.
I'm not sure if it stemmed from them or our neighbors have chickens.

It's been several weeks since I bought them. Maybe 4-5.
I had something go through my coop two weeks ago. It hit the chicks I bought hard, though it also managed to take out my 8yr old silkie bantam roo.

Symptoms for the chicks were lethargy, weight loss, some with panting (not the heavy breathing like this one). Two had the leg weakness, one died. The other had been so bad I expected him too, he bounced back totally healthy.
Argy (my roo) was doing the constant light pant.
No discharge, eyes were clear in the fact there was no drainage or mucus, they didn't wheeze.
They did have diarrhea, a runny honey mustard color. I noticed when they got over that it usually meant they were recovering.
Everyone went on the sulfur, I lost 5 chicks, but the rest seem to be thriving now.

This chick is from a separate group, the group that hatched here (non-vaccinated). The other group was older, so they didn't have much contact with them. It's been at least 2 weeks since the outbreak. I was hoping that was the end of it.
I'm currently also keeping a close eye on one of my bantie hens. She looked like she was breathing a little hard.



I have gone to the feed stores around here, their poultry products are severely lacking. No poultry vaccines, antibiotics or the like.
 
normally you dont mix vaccinated birds with non-vaccinatated (you either vaccinate or not) do you even know what the original birds were vaccinated for?
Start with taking an ample (and fresh) poo sample in for a faecal.
Stop feeding the layer if this bird is only six weeks old.
Since you seem to be saying there is no congestion or respiratory symptoms outside of the panting it may just be the bird is severely weakened from the illness and meds and the accompanying malabsorption from not recovering properly PLUS the added stress of the heat.
I have no idea what may be wrong other than that but I would suggest you keep it separated in a temp stable (not hot) place and give a supplement (or add baby parrot/bird formula to the starter to concentrate the nutrition). You should find a general all round poultry supplement (you can order AviaCharge 2000 online from McMurry or Strombergs which is an excellent supplement) and offer a live culture yogurt free choice daily. You can also give polyvisol enfamil (three drops in beak once a day for a week then taper off the next...
Double check your dosage on the electrolytes and make sure you are not putting in too much in the water (it should be made up fresh daily)
 
The unvaccinated never came in contact with vaccinated. Vaccinated are in a pen clear over the way while the Un are near the house.

Seller said they were vaccinated and I just took it at face value. Major oversight on my part.

Chick has been inside the house. If any of my chickens show signs of illness they're in the house to control enviroment and keep an eye on them.

Layer feed was a temp thing as I ran out of chick starter and haven't been able to get out to the store. Sadly I'll have to wait until Monday to check the feed-feed stores for the baby bird formula or anything else besides the normal feed. Got home too later to go today.

Now that I think about it I do have the vitamins and yogurt. Now if she'll just cooperate.
Actually, is Activia safe for a chicken? Or is the bacteria dangerous to poultry? I have that and normal yogurt, Walmart brand. But I'm pretty sure the latter is pasteurized with no live culture.
 
i read on byc somewhere to use walmart yogurt. i am surprised that you said it has no live culture. search that topic on byc.

i hope your chick gets better.
 

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