CHICKEN SWAPS OF NH SWAP LISTINGS

[BlacksheepCardigans]

As far as I know you'll get all white or cream kids, maybe some incomplete partridge or lacing. They made the Tints by crossing a parent strain that's dominant white/silver (some web sources say "white leghorn," but that's really not true - the parent strain may once have had leghorn in it, but that would have been decades ago) with a parent strain that's somewhat darker, maybe one of their Tetra Ambers. The company is overseas, so it's sometimes hard to tell, but a US company bought the technology (and grandparent stock) and there is one huge Tetra America farm and two hatcheries, and they sell the Tints to Tractor Supply.

 

[1Chick Magnet]

The buyer only wanted pullets so no, but I am now working with someone who wants at least a pair and who does intend to breed them. They're really so easy to care for. They're auto-sexing, they lay blue eggs which seem sooooo easy to incubate. They seem relatively hardy and being a medium build standard bird the feed costs are bearable. I love them. I'm hoping to get down to 8 or so pullets but that coop's big enough to keep them all over winter and the other coop is not close to max capacity to I can still add birds and if push comes to shove (can we say NYD hatchalong) I have a few small dog house coops that I can toss some in - poor hubby. I know which ones I am going to breed forward so the others I will either sell off or put into a layer or an EE flock if folks feel the cost is too high. I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do and what I want to breed as I have my eyes on another import....

What kind of bird is Bubba. Is he a frizzle? That mixed bird of Blacksheepcardigans is sooooo pretty but my Chocolate bantam Orps are the limit of my bantam ventures.

bubba is a large fowl red black frizzled cochin. he is the size of a small turkey.

 

[1Chick Magnet]

I think I missed the "medium sized" boat . The two that I have from you are pretty dang big! But that's exactly what I wanted, so I am excited.

We've finally got the breeding pens set, so this is what I'll be swapping in the spring (I'll start incubating as soon as the hens settle down and start laying again):

Large Fowl:

Easter Leggers (Easter Eggers made with Legbars): Legbar roosters x naked neck cochin, frizzle cochin/brahma, a bunch of Wyandottes, etc.

Big Giant Mixes: White Orp (he's looking to top out above 12 lb) and black giant cochin rooster x our biggest layers (Jersey Giant mixes, mostly).

Cheek Puffers: Sultan rooster x ameraucanas and salmon faverolles

Bantams:

Fatties: SQ silver-laced bantam cochin x bantam cornish

Serama Cochins: Barred bantam cochin x serama

First-generation smooth sizzles: Black silkie rooster x serama/cochin mixes and cochin/bantam RIR mixes

Our "Healthy Tinies" project (this one I am very excited about): One pen is a three-year-old A-size Serama rooster x tiny Old English, Japanese, etc. The other is A and B Serama hens x a khaki Old English Game rooster. All babies will be dun chocolate. The third is a frizzle C-size Serama rooster over a bunch of miscellaneous little hens. The goal is a serama-sized chicken that won't drop dead!

question---did bubba have anything to do with the naked neck cochin? one of his wives is a buff turken.

I want to see the cheek puffers.

 

[1Chick Magnet]

Bubba is a handsome Roo! Great frizzle

thanks
I will tell him you said so tomorrow morning.

 

[1Chick Magnet]

Hi Everyone,
We are raising Silver Gray Dorkings and I just recently found the Chicken Swaps of NH

I am trying to increase and improve my flock. For those of you still hatching for next spring how long do you leave heat lights on them now that the weather is getting colder?
All the Best,
Lisa

welcome Lisa
have you had dorkings long? I have one pullet. what are the personalities like on yours?

 

[aceschix]

The buyer only wanted pullets so no, but I am now working with someone who wants at least a pair and who does intend to breed them.  They're really so easy to care for. They're auto-sexing, they lay blue eggs which seem sooooo easy to incubate. They seem relatively hardy and being a medium build standard bird the feed costs are bearable. I love them. I'm hoping to get down to 8 or so pullets but that coop's big enough to keep them all over winter and the other coop is not close to max capacity to I can still add birds and if push comes to shove (can we say NYD hatchalong) I have a few small dog house coops that I can toss some in - poor hubby. I know which ones I am going to breed forward so the others I will either sell off or put into a layer or an EE flock if folks feel the cost is too high. I'm still trying to figure out what I want to do and what I want to breed as I have my eyes on another import....

What kind of bird is Bubba. Is he a frizzle?  That mixed bird of Blacksheepcardigans is sooooo pretty but my Chocolate bantam Orps are the limit of my  bantam ventures.

bubba is a large fowl red black frizzled cochin.  he is the size of a small turkey. 

Hi folks. Not to butt in ....but I guess I am . "Bubba" is a pure Cochin. He is a LF frizzle Red Brown cochin. Turns out his mom was split to a red brown line from a lemon blue breed project. But I was only a few years into cochins at the time and did not know the hidden genetics I had. We were not even sure of his sex at the time...remember he was just a ball of feathers . Love those cochins.

Seems Bubba has been living the high life with Janet!

 

[1Chick Magnet]

Hi folks. Not to butt in ....but I guess I am

. "Bubba" is a pure Cochin. He is a LF frizzle Red Brown cochin. Turns out his mom was split to a red brown line from a lemon blue breed project. But I was only a few years into cochins at the time and did not know the hidden genetics I had. We were not even sure of his sex at the time...remember he was just a ball of feathers

. Love those cochins.
Seems Bubba has been living the high life with Janet!

hi april,
thanks for the info. bubbas chicks pretty much look like the moms no matter what color they are. I get blue.,black. splash, and laced from him with no bleed through. do you have any idea how that is possible genetically?
by the way. I just gave him the splash pullet I hatched from your eggs. she is beautiful. I love her.

 

[BlacksheepCardigans]

You shouldn't be able to get splash from him. If you really did get splash, that's super weird. You get blue and black are because they're "red splits" - black is dominant to red, so they're blacks carrying red, and if they inherit a blue gene from mom they'll be blue. They'll produce red, though, if bred to something red or something that carries red. The lacing is because lacing typically shows up in a second generation and silver is sex-linked dominant; you don't usually get show-quality lacing if you breed to a non-laced bird, but you do usually get some pretty strong markings. If he was bred to a silver lace hen, you're essentially creating Golden Comets, so pullets should be gold with some lacing and cockerels should be silver with some lacing.

I have a TON of black bantam pullets here, just at point of lay, who are silver splits - dad is a silver laced cochin. They all came out solid black like their moms, as though he had no influence, but in fact that silver is just hiding. I am looking for something red-based to breed them to, and if I find something we're going to have an explosion of color (black, red, gold, cream, silver) in the next generation.

 

[aceschix]

You shouldn't be able to get splash from him. If you really did get splash, that's super weird. You get blue and black are because they're "red splits" - black is dominant to red, so they're blacks carrying red, and if they inherit a blue gene from mom they'll be blue. They'll produce red, though, if bred to something red or something that carries red. The lacing is because lacing typically shows up in a second generation and silver is sex-linked dominant; you don't usually get show-quality lacing if you breed to a non-laced bird, but you do usually get some pretty strong markings. If he was bred to a silver lace hen, you're essentially creating Golden Comets, so pullets should be gold with some lacing and cockerels should be silver with some lacing.

I have a TON of black bantam pullets here, just at point of lay, who are silver splits - dad is a silver laced Cochin. They all came out solid black like their moms, as though he had no influence, but in fact that silver is just hiding. I am looking for something red-based to breed them to, and if I find something we're going to have an explosion of color (black, red, gold, cream, silver) in the next generation.

Keep in mind genetics in like a foreign language to me I seem to retain the parts that play out frequently in my birds or the part I need to work through.

He is Brown red from a lemon blue line. If I understand correctly we are still dealing with the latent blue dilute genes. Because he can be visualy black (brown red) and still carry the blue (split to blue) He can be black carrying the dilute and will then throw things in the blue family if bred to something that works with that same dilute.

You will not get show quality splash but you can get a blue variation. Also, the girls Janet is putting him over are not all cochins and no idea what colors are hiding in the other parent stock.

My 2 cents. Hope it helps.

 

[BlacksheepCardigans]

I am not yet an expert on all the bird colors, so don't ask me about stuff like e+ and all that nonsense, but I do know a bunch of the simpler rules.

Lavender can hide, but blue can't. No bird can "carry" blue, because blue is actually half-splash. Two copies of the gene = splash, one copy = blue, no copies = black. That applies to any black feathers on the bird, so you can have a blue wheaten or a splash mottled or whatever. So if he's got black feathers, and I think he does, right?, then he's not able to contribute blue.

It's normal to get brown reds out of a lemon blue pen, because lemon blue is just brown red + the blue gene. So it works like any other blue-black-splash pen, where the blues are lemon blue, the blacks are brown red, and the splashes are lemon splash.