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[smyers32]

Good call Bee, they most certainly would not have used antibiotics 'back in the day'. After 2 days on it and no improvement, I'm not sure it's worth it. I try not to medicate myself unless really, very necessary. I was putting acv in the water before I started the meds in the water.
The original buff first had a runny swollen eye that I treated with horsey eye ointment, her eye is MUCH better, but she has a terrible 'gurgle'. One of the pullets went from being fine 24 hours ago to now making a terrible wheeze with every breath and opening her beak with every breath. The two of them came from different places though? All the others are just showing the very mildest of symptoms.

 

[NotAFarm]

I have used food grade mineral oil but never heard of ghee, what is it? Where do you get it? Info would be greatly appreciated!

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Ghee
Ghee is a class of clarified butter that originated in South Asia and is commonly used in South Asian (Indian, Bangladeshi, Nepali, Pakistani, and Iranian cuisine) cuisine and ritual.
The word ghee comes from Sanskrit: घृत (ghṛta, IPA: [gʱr̩t̪ə] 'sprinkled') and has several names around the world (Bengali: ঘী ghi, Punjabi: ਘਿਉ ghio, Hindi: घी ghī, Gujarati: ઘી ghi, Maithili/Nepali: घ्यू ghyū, Urdu: گھی ghī, Oriya: ଘିଅ ghiô, Marathi/Konkani: तूप tūp, Kannada: ತುಪ್ಪ tuppa, Malayalam: നെയ്യ് ney, Tamil: நெய் ney, Telugu: నెయ్యి neyyi, Somali: subaag, Arabic: سمنة samna, Persian: روغن حیوانی roghan-e heivâni, Georgian: ერბო erbo, Indonesian: minyak samin, Malay: minyak sapi, Hausa: man shanu).
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• 1 Preparation
• 2 In Hinduism
• 3 Culinary uses
• 4 Medicinal uses
• 5 Nutrition
• 6 Outside South Asia
• 7 See also
• 8 References

[edit] Preparation

To prepare ghee, butter is melted in a pot over medium heat. The butter begins to melt, forming a white froth on top. It is then simmered stirring occasionally and the froth reduces slowly and the color of the butter changes to pale yellow. Then it is cooked on low heat until it turns golden. The residue settles at the bottom and the ghee, which is now clear, golden,translucent and fragrant, is ready. The ghee is then filtered and it solidifies when completely cool.[1] Ghee has a long shelf-life and needs no refrigeration if kept in an airtight container to prevent oxidation. The texture, color and taste of ghee depends on the source of the milk obtained and the duration of boiling.

 

[Melissa6]

Thanks, Bee, for the suggestion not to feed on the ground in the run. I read somewhere about making them work a bit for their food, but Iagree the location might be bad. Also, Iwill experiment with feeding less. When I gave it all together, they picked out the whole vrains.

 

[Back2MyRoots]

Fourth, I'd work on putting some good probiotics into their systems....mother vinegar and raw honey in the water, fermented feeds, garlic in the feed, fresh foraging conditions.

Ok, I have a stupid question...... I've heard not to let chickens eat garlic and onions because it will make your eggs taste funny?

 

[Back2MyRoots]

Second, I'd skip giving antibiotics for something that is probably viral...all you do at that point is suppress the immune system even further and start a practice of crutching poor immune systems right off the bat. I never advocate crutching the immune systems of livestock...this creates a weak flock that will always be susceptible to every walking germ.

Another "stupid question"....... How would one "crutch" their immune systems?

 

[Beekissed]

Good call Bee, they most certainly would not have used antibiotics 'back in the day'. After 2 days on it and no improvement, I'm not sure it's worth it. I try not to medicate myself unless really, very necessary. I was putting acv in the water before I started the meds in the water.
The original buff first had a runny swollen eye that I treated with horsey eye ointment, her eye is MUCH better, but she has a terrible 'gurgle'. One of the pullets went from being fine 24 hours ago to now making a terrible wheeze with every breath and opening her beak with every breath. The two of them came from different places though? All the others are just showing the very mildest of symptoms.

You know what my granny gave for this type of respiratory thing? She'd give each chicken an eyedropper full of turpentine down their throats! Mama said all birds were right as rain the very next day....

The kill or cure approach.

Ok, I have a stupid question...... I've heard not to let chickens eat garlic and onions because it will make your eggs taste funny?

I've never noticed any difference...egg yolks have sulfur, garlic and onions have sulfur...is it going to make them taste more like sulfur? All in the imagination.

Another "stupid question"....... How would one "crutch" their immune systems?

Crutching means to bolster artificially...to do the work with meds that their immune systems need to do in order to get stronger. If you medicate for every little sniffle and deworm on a schedule, how in the world will you ever know who is naturally hardy and resilient and who is not? Vaccinating chicks, giving medicated feeds for cocci...all the same. Let the chicks develop antibodies and good flora in their guts first thing or you will be revisiting your med chest quite a bit for things like bumble foot, respiratory illnesses, worms, cocci, etc.

Too many and too often this generation reaches for that quick fix, claiming that the older generation had high mortality rates before we got all these wonderful medicines....total hype to justify the lazy way out, IMO. Everyone wants the strongest med possible to get rid of whatever is there hard and fast, with the idea that this will be the most effective thing to do and will be the least amount of work. Meds are nice when used as a last resort and to prevent human suffering....but that is not how they are normally used today. Not for humans and not for animals.

 

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If you ever had lobster with drawn butter, this is ghee. You can also buy it already made, in health food stores, or sometimes in grocery stores(may be in ethnic section) In health stores it is made from grassfed cows and usually organic. It basically removes the mild solids-great for camping when you do not have refrigeration.

 

[BWKatz]

Sounds great for emergency suppies too.For the respiratory, I use 1tablespoon honey in a lg shot glass with 1tablspoon lemon or vinegar..Then fill to top with bourbon. Good for cicks and humans

 

[Maven]

Morning All,

I know there is the sick bird forum for this, but I wanted an answer from the OTs.

Yesterday evening I noticed one of my 12wk olds standing stock still out in the yard with her eyes closed. One minute she seemed fine, the next it is as if she had gone into a trance. I picked her up and she opened her eyes but didn't fight me. I let her sit there on my lap until all the others had gone in to roost then I took her in and placed her on the roost. I half expected to find her dead this morning but she came running right out with all the others when I opened the pop door to the run so they could come get breakfast. However, I noticed she ran over to one side of the run and while she is moving around a bit, she still acts a bit like she is in a trance and can't seem to fully open her eyes.

The have all been on fermented feed for over a month now. The feed is medicated, and they have a dry version inside free choice to nibble until I come down in the morning to feed them. They free-range from 10am until they put themselves to bed. ACV in the water, cayenne pepper on their feed, scratch thrown in the run for early morning fun before going out. The Chicken Shack is 'healthy clean' - deep litter with DE, roosts painted with burnt motor oil. I pick up at least 3 different chickens each day and inspect for mites of any kind and watch their poo - no sign of mites or worms at all. All the others appear healthy and strong, and so does she other than this 'trance' she appears to be in.

So, what do you think it is? Cull now, or wait and see how she does today? (Notice, taking her to the vet is NOT an option

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Thanks so much.

 

[Back2MyRoots]

Everyone wants the strongest med possible to get rid of whatever is there hard and fast, with the idea that this will be the most effective thing to do and will be the least amount of work. Meds are nice when used as a last resort and to prevent human suffering....but that is not how they are normally used today. Not for humans and not for animals.

Understood! And thanks!