Chickens for 10-20 years or more? Pull up a rockin' chair and lay some wisdom on us!

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I have to agree with Magic Chicken. I can understand why you would be bored with us "newbies", and I've been following long enough to know you've all covered these subjects over and over.But the bottom line is that newbies aren't going to look at this thread if it isn't active. Let me tell you why this thread is so important. I started raising chickens in June of this year. I researched breeds, coop designs, feeding, etc. for a couple of months before I decided to do this. I've never been one to just jump into anything. Drives my DH crazy. The problem was, and I didn't know this then, was that I was on other sites and different threads on BYC. So here I go making my DH, who is disabled, and his family (carpenters) build a run and modify a garden shed into a coop based on specifications that I had researched. It was labor intensive, costly, and I endured a whole lot of mockery in the process while I insisted it had to be done this way. THEN, I found this thread. And everything I thought I had right......was so, so wrong. So then the dilemma. How do you go back and tell your DH that pretty much everything has to be redone? Well, it wasn't received well. My DH became as familiar with Bee, Al, and Walt as I was, but his eyes sort of glared at the mention of their names. Anyway, I envy those newbies who find this thread at the start. The OT's have saved them a whole lot of money and time, but most importantly they have taught all of us the proper way to manage their flock to prevent disease instead of treating it. To raise healthy, productive chickens. And to give those chickens the kind of life that every living creature deserves. I know I'm probably one of the ones that Bee talks about. You know the ones with air between their ears that don't listen. BUT, she is wrong, at least about me. Because even though people might question the OT's methods or even initially disagree, that doesn't mean they aren't learning. Sometimes it takes a bit of time before some can wrap their heads around things. Especially when there is so much misinformation out there given with so much conviction. You may never reach everyone, but for the ones you do, there are countless chickens being managed properly. That makes a difference. And most people aren't researchers. They need a "live" someone to ask questions to and get answers from. You may find those types lazy and a bore to you, but I don't. That's what teaching is. Now if it's the same person, asking the same questions, then yes. But you are reaching new group of people all the time. They don't have backgrounds in farming or animal husbandry.' And even if they have, they have forgotten or learned it wrong. I didn't know even the simplest of things. I felt stupid and I'm a well educated person. Sometimes I was afraid to ask a question because I felt it was something I should know, but then was grateful to see someone else had asked it. Bottom line....you all have a lot to offer. Knowledge is to be shared not held hostage for your own use. When I worked (retired now) I was a mentor. I've answered thousands of questions, the same ones over and over, to newbies in my field. I always found it to be very rewarding. I know it can be frustrating too and you can get burned out, but try to work through that because if you can't, then it's going to be a sad day for a whole lot of chickens. Newbies will be left with the Internet crowd of pet chickens and diapers and there's a lot of them out there with raising chickens being the new craze. What a shame that would be.
 
I like this tread for the heading " pull up a rocking chair" part..
Well also " lay some wisdom on us!"

ok the part about offending someone..
I have to say I am offended when someone else is offended..
By just being offended...

Whatever did you guys see the Sun this morning? Yesterday
I was up before the Sun.. The moon was above the Sun.. It seems
the galactic alignment.? Close... Then I mentioned to my husband
regarding the moon... He said there was some meteor that went
by our planet yesterday.. Have to check that out.. I must say our
tortoise hibernation was off by a few months this year.. The animals
& mother nature knows.. The Hebrew God is a genius..
Hey does anyone know of any other bird that lays an egg every
27 hours.. Or so?
 
One thing to think about -- if Bee doesn't have to spend so much time here answering the same questions for new people (and there are always new people), she can spend that time on her book and then go on a book tour and get a TV show and reach an even wider audience.
 
Well Bee , i will be sorry to see this thread finish ,as i said to u when i first found this thread ,as I'm a newbie, i had found it very frustrating & annoying that i couldn't find worthwhile information either via poultry clubs or Aussie chicken threads .
it was all a big secret Not to to be shared but held by those in the know .(maybe it made them feel superior )
.having said that , yourself ,Fred AL Walt & others willingness to share & pass on info has been a great benefit to myself & my "chooks" Thank you .
Bee u have a great way of teaching in layman's terms & I'm sure this thread has helped a great many, even if they didn't ask questions very often out of fear of being thought of as a newbie
 
How does one freshen up an old thread of old timers without just reflecting on old times and things?
Because this thread is so massive, it would be wonderful to have one post that sums up the various problems and their solutions. Then if someone wanted to search deeper in the thread they could even though there no absolutes a good deal of the time...then if the problem crops up again in a new post it would be easier to say "see post # ---blah blah blah (the summary page.) Oh groan, that would almost constitute an index.
 
Because this thread is so massive, it would be wonderful to have one post that sums up the various problems and their solutions. Then if someone wanted to search deeper in the thread they could even though there no absolutes a good deal of the time...then if the problem crops up again in a new post it would be easier to say "see post # ---blah blah blah (the summary page.) Oh groan, that would almost constitute an index.

Actually, an index would rock! The 'search this thread' option on byc sucks.
 
How do you close the ends??


We are working nthe trough this morning, found some guttering in the shed. The legs are going to be wide enough and come high enough to block the ends. We will attach some wood along the bottom to the legs to support the guttering. The guttering itself will be attached to the support.
We will add support coming off the side of legs that close off the end of the gutter like some sort X.
 
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