Chickentrain's Dog Q&A

[chickentrains]

Thank you
I think my dog is a german spitz mix, I will look in to the other breeds

any breed you like, thats labeled with "high prey drive" will hunt rats, and anything else that moves, lol

 

[black_cat]

off the top of my head, there are Goldens, Labradors, Flat coated, curly coated, and chesepeak bay?


right @TheDawg ?

I think that it's spelled 'Chesapeake'?

 

[ShrekDawg]

@TheDawg

Poodles not in the sporting group

how did the poodle get lost as a waterfowl retriever? A fair amount of the blame, said Grace Blair, M.D., a poodle breeder from Diamond Springs, California and the person most responsible for the American Kennel Club's decision to include the standard poodle among the list of breeds eligible for AKC hunting tests, rests with the breeders themselves as well as a decision made in the late 19th century.

'The American Kennel Club followed the lead of the British Kennel Club and put standard poodles in the non-sporting group. No one seems to know what the rationale was for that particular decision," said Dr. Blair. "The Canadian Kennel Club, which started in 1888, had the standard poodle in the sporting group originally but moved them to non-sporting in 1938 when the CKC recognized miniature poodles. The United Kennel Club has always viewed poodles as a sporting breed. What this means, however, is that for roughly 150 years, poodles, for the most part, have not been selectively bred for their ability to hunt.'

Poodle folks who hunted with their dogs were unable to even begin addressing this prob~m [sic] until the mid 1980s when the Canadian Kennel Club permitted standard poodles to start participating in the retriever working certificate program. According to Dr. Blair, much of the credit for this move by the CKC must go to Jacqueline Harbour, a poodle breeder in Ontario. And because they had always been part of the UKC's sporting group, poodles were also automatically eligible for the UKC-affiliated Hunting Retriever Club's tests.

In 1993, the Poodle Club of America started a retriever working certificate program, which was a prerequisite for becoming eligible to participate in the AKC's retriever hunting tests. In 1996 the CKC started retriever hunting tests (which look very much like the AKC's tests) with standard poodles permitted to run. The final step came in September of last year when standard poodles became eligible to participate in the AKC's retrieverhunting tests."

Article is here : Standard Poodles: Foo Foos No Longer

The sporting group is huge and already very diverse. Poodles would be highly unlikely winners in the sporting group but win readily in the non-sporting group. BTW it isn't as if American registries totally exclude poodle from the sporting group. They are in the Gun Dog group (aka sporting) in the UKC.

Very interesting! Thanks!

 

[chickentrains]

I think that it's spelled 'Chesapeake'?

yeah, I was typing half asleep without google to fact check.

 

[black_cat]

Yup! But you forgot one the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever or “Toller”

Those are SO gorgeous
My friend has one and I would die for him, he's SO cute (the dog)

 

[chickentrains]

Very interesting! Thanks!

bascialy they are just too good to be in the sporting group

they can do everything and the sporting group was too big.. lol

 

[ShrekDawg]

tbh they are kinda ugly in person

they have weird proportions

German spitz have high prey drive that you can redirect to rats, Kai kens too, and Icelandic sheepdog are what I could find

I love icies! I love all the spitz breeds hahah

 

[ShrekDawg]

has the Purina Pro plan situation blown over yet?

i was gonna start feeding that, its the cheapest high quality food

I’m not sure. I hadn’t heard that one? I did hear something about different kibbles in one if that’s what you mean? It’s a good food for sure

 

[chickentrains]

bascialy they are just too good to be in the sporting group

they can do everything and the sporting group was too big.. lol

the reason I love poodles because they literally do everything

doing everything is a understatement

 

[chickentrains]

I’m not sure. I hadn’t heard that one? I did hear something about different kibbles in one if that’s what you mean? It’s a good food for sure

https://www.thebrandbooth.com/dvrwfdi/purina-pro-plan-making-dogs-sick-2019-121684

its ALL over facebook, that Corgi that just vomited up gallons of blood then died