chocolate gene

[syble]

i would like to get a hold of something with a chocolate gene for a project bird. I see that imported orps have it, but they are way out of my price range! Are there any more established birds around that have chocolate gene? Sorry i should specify chickens.
Thanks
Sib

 

[Illia]

Seramas.

That's all you have.

 

[syble]

good god! that would be really useless for a standard sized chicken project! I think i will have to wait a long time for chocolate orps to spread around, hopefully before i'm old and decrepit i can play with some haha

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

Well, you could move to England or Australia (or import birds from there--about the same cost

), then you'd find wyandottes with choc.

 

[Illia]

If you don't mind toying around, and don't mind a chocolate color that breeds as true as blue, there's the dun color to work with. You can extract it from a few buff breeds, can't gaurantee which or which lines either, it's a hit and miss. There's also many dun based bantams, and Pumpkin Hulseys as well as Brazilian Gamefowl I'm pretty sure also carry the dun gene.

 

[HaikuHeritageFarm]

How easily does the true chocolate carry? Is it a dilute of black, and therefore recessive, like it is in rabbits, or like Lavender?

 

[Illia]

Yes, it is recessive. I have little to no knowledge on how it works on black though. It is sex-linked too.

 

[wolftracks]

hoping this thread gets a lot of posts

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

choc is a sex-linked recessive gene that dilutes black pigment. Males with one copy are carriers, but do not appear chocolate. Maels with two copies appear chocolate. Females have only one copy of hte gene, so they either are chocolate and show it, or are not and do not show it.

Lavender is an autosomal recessive. Meaning that both genders carry two copies of the gene: with one lavender allele and one not-lavender they are carriers, and do not appear lavender. With two copies of the gene, they appear lavender, Lavender dilutes both black and red pigment.

Dun is an autosomal incompletely dominant gene that dilutes black pigment. One copy gives a chocolate coloured bird, two give a khaki coloured bird.

 

[Chris09]

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or import birds from there--about the same cost

Ain't that the truth.

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