chocolate Swedish....

[NewHopePoultry]

I ran into a lady I helped a few years ago get into Blue Swedish ducks, I was in a rush, so I gave her my email.
Well she emailed me and was telling me all about Blue Swedish ducks like I didnt have a clue. I got down to the part where she said she was breeding them in silver and chocolate and got mad.
I emailed her back and told her that Blue Swedish dont come in chocolate, only blue, black, silver & splash.(I've heard of lavdner,but dont know anything about them) I just know based on genetics, you cant get a chocolate, or at least I dont think you could.
I do know where she got chocolate from though, I also sold her two khaki campbell females,so I think she is letting them all breed and then selling them as pure blue swedish at the local farmers market.
Im waiting to hear back and see what she says.
If it is possbile, how do you produce some? I know Black to silver = mainlys blue
Blue X Blue= a mixture of black, silver, blue and splash

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

I have seen chocolate swedish before, they meet the standard and everything but are just chocolate bibbed.

 

[NewHopePoultry]

I've never seen or heard of one. And even if there was some, I know hers arent pure, they are mixed with khaki campbells.
I know buff ducks can be chocolate with white bibs

 

[Cetawin]

This thread may interest you


https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=59318&p=1



The farm store where I buy feed had chocolate swedish in there less than 2 weeks ago. You can see the difference between them and the blues as ducklings too at least I could see a difference.

 

[NewHopePoultry]

I've never read about a chocolate swedish in any of the standards(and I've read several of them)
Guess you learn something new everyday,lol

 

[fancyfowl4ever]

I bred the Chocolates for quite a few years, what a beautiful colour. My pair of Purebred Blacks threw 1 Chocolate duck for me several years ago and that got it all started........ Was the only Chocolate that pair ever threw. But it takes only 1 to start a breeding program.

I got out of the swedish since they were way too skittish for me and I love the calm personality of my scovies(and the scovie kept having his way with my swede hens even though he had 4 hens of his own).

 

[NewHopePoultry]

How do you get a chocolate though?

 

[CityChicker]

Chocolate can pop up in extended black birds (in ducks anyway, not sure about other types of birds). The black in Swedish is extended black (E/E). The blue is extended black with blue dilution. Silver is extended black with two blue dilutions.

Chocolate is extended black with brown dilution. I am not sure the history of the colors in Swedish since I have only kept small numbers of them and never focused on them, but I would not be surprised if some naturally carry the brown dilution. Some chocolate coloration does sometimes pop up in the black birds.

Even if the birds were outcrossed to another breed to get the brown dilution (not saying that they were necessarily), that is how new breeds and colors are developed a lot of times.