coccidiosis? UPDATE

[PunkinPeep]

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you're welcome!

 

[elmo]

Confirm it's not something normal like shed intestinal lining, though:

http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0

 

[PrinceSandwich]

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Oh, thats a good point. It could be a shed intestinal lining

how do i tell the cocci poo from the shed intest poo?

 

[PrinceSandwich]

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So just feeding them medicated chick starter will work? Also I have a mixed flock (a turkey, ducks, chickens ) can they all get the same kind of coccidiosis?

This information is incorrect.

Medicated feed is meant to help chicks develop resistance to cocci protozoa. It is NOT a treatment for a cocci outbreak. Also, duramyacin is an antibiotic and is of no use for cocci.

I recommend Corid or another liquid Amprolium 9.6% product. The dose is one to two teaspoons per gallon of water for five days. You'll need to chance the water every day and try to make sure that your chickens don't drink from any unmedicated water source during that time.

I can't remember if turkeys and chickens and ducks get the same cocci. Something in the back of my brain is telling me that different strains affect the different birds. But i can't say for sure.

That said, Corid would be the treatment for all of them as far as i know. I only raise chickens, so take that into consideration. Mostly, i wanted to make sure you know that you can't treat cocci with medicated feed and/or antibiotics.

Is your guinea new to your location? If so, he probably is the culprit, and you might be able to medicate just him if the rest of your flock as been there for quite some time and is already adjusted to your soil protozoa.

Thank you for the info! I will ask my feed store about these meds. Yes the guinea is new to the lacation. But i seperated him to a wire cage for a few hours, and didn't get any bloddy droppings from him.

 

[PunkinPeep]

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Oh, thats a good point. It could be a shed intestinal lining

how do i tell the cocci poo from the shed intest poo?

Prince, have you seen any more blood since you separated the guinea?

Cocci bleeding will often include small pools of blood, and it will be in pretty much every poop from that animal. Intestinal lining will be once in a while, and shouldn't be liquidy.

Another good way to know if it's cocci is just to know how cocci works. If your birds are adults and have been on your land for their whole lives, cocci is very unlikely. If they are new to your place, they could have encountered unfamiliar strains of cocci that they didn't develop resistance to as chicks. In this case, coccidiosis is possible 2 to 3 weeks after first encountering your soil.

 

[PrinceSandwich]

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Oh, thats a good point. It could be a shed intestinal lining

how do i tell the cocci poo from the shed intest poo?

Prince, have you seen any more blood since you separated the guinea?

Cocci bleeding will often include small pools of blood, and it will be in pretty much every poop from that animal. Intestinal lining will be once in a while, and shouldn't be liquidy.

Another good way to know if it's cocci is just to know how cocci works. If your birds are adults and have been on your land for their whole lives, cocci is very unlikely. If they are new to your place, they could have encountered unfamiliar strains of cocci that they didn't develop resistance to as chicks. In this case, coccidiosis is possible 2 to 3 weeks after first encountering your soil.

I have since put the guinea back in ( didn't notice any bloody poop from him). The bloody stuff i found was more like chunks than liquid.
Most of my birds have been in there for a long time ( well they were taken out in the winter, and put back in in the spring). The only new ones are some Buckeyes I put in recently ( a week or two), and the guinea ( put in maybe a month ago). This morning when i went out I found one of the buckeyes kind of hunched over and in active. She also had a small cut in the wbbing of her foot

I seperated her from the flock, so I can look at her more closly ( and check for any bloody stool).

 

[PunkinPeep]

Let us know what turns up, and in the mean time, try to get your hands on some Corid, just in case she's sick.

 

[PrinceSandwich]

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I will let you know. Thank you soo much for your help!

 

[PrinceSandwich]

Ok, heres an update.

The buckeye that I separated (the one that was acting in-active) is the one with the bloody poop. But I wouldn't say that its liquid, its more like normal poop with red mixed in. It also has these kidney bean shaped red lumps in it. Now that shes separated do I still need to treat the whole flock, or only the buckeye? I Buckeyes are the youngest birds in the pen. And they were the last ones to be introduced.

 

[PunkinPeep]

Based on what you've told me, i would separate both buckeyes and treat them. Even though only one is showing obvious symptoms right now, the other is likely at a very similar place since she has had the same exposure.