Cocciodosis

[Wyorp Rock]

Thanks for this. I was also wondering if the taste had any effect on their desire to drink enough of it.

I've never noticed mine avoiding water with Corid. I don't think it really has a taste like some things.

If you find that they are not drinking the medicated water very well, add a bit of fruit juice or karo syrup to sweeten the water.

 

[AGeese]

I've never noticed mine avoiding water with Corid. I don't think it really has a taste like some things.

If you find that they are not drinking the medicated water very well, add a bit of fruit juice or karo syrup to sweeten the water.

Thank you

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Thank you

No problem!

Do remember, the direct oral *drench* you are giving the pullet is just an additional drench. She also needs to be drinking the Mixed Corid Water as the sole source of drinking water throughout the day/waking hours.

Corid Amprolium Oral Drench Instructions
When treating a bird for coccidiosis one can give an oral drench in addition to their medicated water. Here are the instructions:

9.6% liquid - Do not dilute

• Give 0.1 ml per pound of body weight orally once or twice a day for 1-3 days.

or

• 0.02 ml per 100 grams of body weight orally once or twice a day for 1-3 days.

20% powder - Mix 1/2 teaspoon powder with 2 teaspoons water.

• Give 0.34 ml per pound of body weight orally once or twice a day for 1-3 days.

or

• 0.07 ml per 100 grams of body weight orally once or twice a day for 1-3 days.

The directions above are the same when using any 9.6% liquid or 20% powder. Such products include Amprol, AmproMed, Amprolium 200, Amprid, CocciAid, etc.

Click here to learn how to give medications orally:
Safely Administering Oral Medications to All Poultry and Waterfowl

 

[Debbie292d]

Thanks for this. I was also wondering if the taste had any effect on their desire to drink enough of it.

It's been a while since I've treated any with it but twice we did chicks with the liquid in the water. We made that their only source, and I don't recall any of them not drinking it.

When we were done with the 5-day dosing, we replenished their B-1 by putting Poultry Cell in their water every other day for a week. These were silkies, so I worried about vitamin deficiencies with them, but any bird can suffer from it.

 

[AGeese]

No problem!

Do remember, the direct oral *drench* you are giving the pullet is just an additional drench. She also needs to be drinking the Mixed Corid Water as the sole source of drinking water throughout the day/waking hours.

Ah I didn't realize I needed to do both. I'll start there.

It's been a while since I've treated any with it but twice we did chicks with the liquid in the water. We made that their only source, and I don't recall any of them not drinking it.

When we were done with the 5-day dosing, we replenished their B-1 by putting Poultry Cell in their water every other day for a week. These were silkies, so I worried about vitamin deficiencies with them, but any bird can suffer from it.

I am going to observe the flock before I treat them, I haven't seen any evidence of it, but the pullet has some questionable poop. Small blackish green logs, in a puddle of runny white. One of which had a red tinge so I thought possibly blood.

Other than her just having a long trip across country to get here and having been picked on a bit, she's otherwise seemly ok, but I did notice her shivering in my garage so I moved her back to the porch where I could control things better.

Before I thought of it, I dosed her with my Ivermectin earlier today. It's actually expired Nov 24 (year), but I made the assumption it's probably still good. Before I retreat her I will buy a new bottle of that.

 

[Debbie292d]

Ah I didn't realize I needed to do both. I'll start there.

I am going to observe the flock before I treat them, I haven't seen any evidence of it, but the pullet has some questionable poop. Small blackish green logs, in a puddle of runny white. One of which had a red tinge so I thought possibly blood.

Other than her just having a long trip across country to get here and having been picked on a bit, she's otherwise seemly ok, but I did notice her shivering in my garage so I moved her back to the porch where I could control things better.

Before I thought of it, I dosed her with my Ivermectin earlier today. It's actually expired Nov 24 (year), but I made the assumption it's probably still good. Before I retreat her I will buy a new bottle of that.

Giving her/them Corid doesn't hurt them at all, it's just the B-1 they can't have while being treated as the amprolium in Corid starves their body of that, which kills the coccidiosis.

What was the Ivermectin treating? We've used that for SLM (scaley leg mites) as we had too many chickens to do the vaseline treatment with.

 

[AGeese]

Giving her/them Corid doesn't hurt them at all, it's just the B-1 they can't have while being treated as the amprolium in Corid starves their body of that, which kills the coccidiosis.

What was the Ivermectin treating? We've used that for SLM (scaley leg mites) as we had too many chickens to do the vaseline treatment with.

What else would have B-1 in it? I'm feeding her Purina flock raiser now. I was treating her for the same, plus any secondary illness, I wanted to be quick about it, she's been stressed and now isolated, but then as I thought about her droppings corid came to mind.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Ah I didn't realize I needed to do both. I'll start there.

What else would have B-1 in it? I'm feeding her Purina flock raiser now. I was treating her for the same, plus any secondary illness, I wanted to be quick about it, she's been stressed and now isolated, but then as I thought about her droppings corid came to mind.

Well, that turned a bit confusing and sideways somehow didn't it.

Feed her her normal feed.
Give the Direct Oral Drench IN ADDITION to the Mixed Corid water to drink throughout the day.
Once you finish the course of treatment, IF you wish, give her some poultry vitamins.

There's nothing that says they *can't* have B1 (Thiamine).
Instructions are to avoid giving EXTRA vitamins/supplements in feed/water that contain B1 during the course of treatment. Not to avoid normal everyday food that may contain normal amounts of vitamins/supplements.

Plumbs drug manual states for Corid that "EXCESSIVE" amounts of B1(Thiamine) in the diet can reduce or reverse the anticoccidial activity of Corid. (High Doses). The manual does not state what *excessive* is, so I and other Educators suggest to avoid giving "Extra" B1 during the course of treatment - so basically don't add supplements while during course of treatment. (See the photo below from the drug manual).

Liquid Corid dose is 2tsp or Powdered Corid Dose is 1 1/2tsp per gallon of water given for 5-7 days as the only source of drinking water.
Do not add any extra vitamins/electrolytes that contain B1(Thiamine) to food or water during the course of treatment.

When treating a bird for coccidiosis one can give an oral drench in addition to their medicated water.

 

[AGeese]

Well, that turned a bit confusing and sideways somehow didn't it.

Feed her her normal feed.
Give the Direct Oral Drench IN ADDITION to the Mixed Corid water to drink throughout the day.
Once you finish the course of treatment, IF you wish, give her some poultry vitamins.

There's nothing that says they *can't* have B1 (Thiamine).
Instructions are to avoid giving EXTRA vitamins/supplements in feed/water that contain B1 during the course of treatment. Not to avoid normal everyday food that may contain normal amounts of vitamins/supplements.

Plumbs drug manual states for Corid that "EXCESSIVE" amounts of B1(Thiamine) in the diet can reduce or reverse the anticoccidial activity of Corid. (High Doses). The manual does not state what *excessive* is, so I and other Educators suggest to avoid giving "Extra" B1 during the course of treatment - so basically don't add supplements while during course of treatment. (See the photo below from the drug manual).




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Awesome! I appreciate this.

 

[AGeese]

One other potiential symptom that came to mind is yawning. I saw it a few times today when I was checking on her. I haven't had a lot of time to spend until now as the weekend rolls around.

I do have miconazole with the tubes, and a generic on hand. If she's not eating enough she does appear a little scrauny. I don't have a tube on hand to tube feed. I'll have to see if I can locate a feeding tube tomorrow.

Just looking to get ahead of whatever potientials might be, this a new bird I purchased and had delivered Tuesday via transport. She was in with her mates that picked on her until she was moved to a different pen. Didn't look all that terrible just a tad fearful, but still full of life, but I'm not very familar with Leige.

There was no biosecurity outside of separate cages for transport with other birds, and I understood that ahead of time.

She gobbled up some scrambled this morning. I do have some grit available to her, and I have everyone on epsom salt flush via drinkers.