Cochin Thread!!!

Thanks. Her father was an actually black mottle. So if I cross her with the blue she has a chance of having mottled chicks because she is a carrier of the mottling?

Mottling is a funny gene as i learned last breeding season. To show mottles properly a bird requires two copies of the mottling gene. Once you breed mottling into your stock it can stay there for ages, and then suddenly pop up unexpectedly down the road.

Both birds would need to come from mottling stock to display mottling. Because the gene is recessive, you need both parents to be carriers for offspring to have a chance at coming out mottled. So, if there is mottling in the past of your blue, then you may get mottling from that cross, it is hard to say without knowing the history of the birds.

Your female is split for mottling, and so should be bred to another bird split for mottled, or to a mottled bird, to get the best chance of getting mottled offspring.

These two popped in my my breeding, even though none of my birds show mottling, so at least two of my birds are carriers of mottling.

This one from my ckl breeding partridge line. Note the difference between the two pullets


this one from a cross to black, to improve type of partridge.
 
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Awesome! My cochin bantam is broody half the year even when she's not on eggs! But I love broody hens there so cute! She's a underdog and gets picked on she is are friendliest people oriented chicken we have! She prefers people over chickens not sq but I love her anyways!
 
Just a quick comment regarding genetics and predicting what chicks you get out of breeding.

When you look at the odds or percentage of a particular variety/patterntrait showing up, those are the odds/percentages for each individual egg, not a whole batch. So for example, if you breed blue x blue the odds are 1/4 black, 1/4 splash and 1/2 blue (25%, 25% and 50% respectively). However, that does NOT mean out of a dozen eggs you get 3 black, 3 splash and 6 blues! You could just as well get all blacks, all, blues, or all splash. The odds just tell you that more likely than not, an individual egg/chick will be blue rather than black or splash.

This is why you will hear breeders for some a particular variety/color (or any other characteristic) will hatch out large numbers of chick in order to get just a few keepers. This is especially true when working with recessive traits from parents that are only carriers or heterozygous for the trait.

The greater the odds/percentages, the more likely it will be that you will get that trait in the chicks.

Dave
 
yeah, so if you breed a black cochin with a white cochin would you get about 25% white 25% black and 50% blue? or am i wrong?

No. Dave was making a point that the percentages are based on raising a huge amount . They should come out roughly in the percentages, but not necessarily so. Chickens should hatch almost 1:1 male to female, but that would be based on hatching a large amount then averaging. Same thing with the percentages supplied.

It is never an easy question to answer, white isnt just white, you can arrive at white through a lot of genetic combinations, recessive white, dominant white, even gold(white silkies are genetically gold).

More then that white can hide a number of recessive genes, or other colours, as can black. So without knowing the history of the parents, it is not possible to predict something 100% accurately.

We can guess based on formulas and algorithims, but knowing the history is the only way to predict the outcome certainly
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Having said all of that, black to recessive white will give you 100% black offspring in the f1, any colour to dominant white should give you white, but with leakage.
 
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I got a new rooster today. Do you think he is a blue splash or mottled? I'm hoping he is going through a molt, I'd like to see his cushion fill out more and around his head and neck.


 
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