Colloncas, Huastecs, & Quechuas

[Grannychick55]

Here is another one

 

[Grannychick55]

Here is another one

 

[Grannychick55]

Here are 2 BQO chicks that hatched at the same time

 

[Grannychick55]

Another pic of the BQO chicks

 

[Grannychick55]

[/IMG]These BQO are very black all over I love how cool they look

 

[Grannychick55]

These chicks might be my favorite breed they are beautiful and very easy to handle but in a minute I will think no maybe the Colloncas are I really love all of them

 

[SparkyCrows]

I wanted to follow up on some of the comments about my Copetona. This is an authentic term for the whole of the lineages being perpetuated and propagated here in the States as stewardship pedigrees. That's nice but an embarrassingly insensitive blurring of of cultural boundaries. Remote though they be, there are people working quite ardently on preserving and protecting these birds.

In fact, it's rather important, from their perspective, that the social structure of these flocks be maintained as intrinsically shaped by their natural environment. The tribes see this as something uniquely theirs that cannot be taken over by European interests (insert a lengthy and ugly political history). They are tying the preservation of their chicken varieties with preservation of their culture and preservation of their environment - ie stop paving over critical ecosystems.

Some of these can be seen in a folder I have at http://scribd.com/sparkycrows

http://www.scribd.com/collections/4348151/Poultry-South-American

For the time being I'm going to refrain from classifying any of my birds into varieties other than those broadly documented by ethnologists & poultry scientists working in Latin and South American counties. The sacred nitty gritty needs to remain in control of the tribes. Not someone sitting on the other side of the planet with some birds allegedly purer than what the tribes themselves have. Please.

So, on that note.... My core birds came directly from Chookschick and are directly related to the birds frequenting this page. Additionally I have other contacts who have contributed equally undocumented rarities. In one case the birds have been in a closed family flock since they immigrated from Thailand. The other case is by lucky happenstance I acquired mixed stock from an antiquities breeder who had everything from Araucanas and Malay to Minohiki mutts and Showgirls. I've been piecing together the pedigrees of these birds plus untangling their genetics for several years now. I have an extended family tree for all my birds on ancestry.com There is also a catalog of my deductions available through Memento Database by Luckydroid.

I greately prefer to use eBay but if people are interested I can work on a listing of eggs specific for this group.

 

[MA Mama]

Visiting South America it is clear that the natives really don't care what is what... they're chickens. Putting some sort of value on them is not a native idea. Europeans have placed value on them.

 

[SparkyCrows]

Visiting South America it is clear that the natives really don't care what is what... they're chickens. Putting some sort of value on them is not a native idea. Europeans have placed value on them.

Hah! Well, I'm sure there aren't particularly many members of the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy in South America. In fact, I'm not sure there are many of the regulars at our local feed store who are particularly concerned breed preservation. It doesn't mean there aren't people interested.

I know looking at publications written in (gasp!) a different language is hard (darn it! why can't they just publish their newspapers, tribal newsletters, academic papers, etc... in English....)

Here's are just a few broad scale overviews written in English for you to ponder.

Among other places, there are partner entities in Argentina, Brasil, Chile, Colombia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Peru and Venezuela....

The Asia Pacific Network on Food Sovereignty or APNFS is a regional network of social movements, farmers` organizations, women`s organizations and NGOs established to address the issues of increasing trade liberalization in agriculture, worsening food insecurity, massive dislocation of peasants, landlessness, erosion of agricultural biodiversity, and the suppression of peasants` democratic rights common to many countries in the region.

APNFS aims to promote and assert the people`s basic right to adequate, nutritious and safe food as well as their right to sustainable livelihoods. It advocates for the realization of the people`s aspirations for economic justice and democratization by actively resisting the incursion of WTO in the domain of food and agriculture. It rejects the neo-liberal agriculture and trade policies espoused by the WTO and the export-orientated model of agriculture it imposes upon developing countries.

APNFS demands the rights and control of poor peasants, artisanal fishers, indigenous peoples and rural women to land, water and other resources [including genetic resources] that will provide them sustainable livelihoods. APNFS also promotes the merits of sustainable development initiatives on the ground, specifically the experiences of NGOs and peoples` organizations [POs] in promoting sustainable farming technologies as well as agro-ecological models of food production and community-based practices in natural resource conservation and management.
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There are many many more nitty gritty local kinds of examples of what is happening but I'm wasting away a beautiful morning when I could be out with my birds. I'll post some of the indigenous newspaper articles I've saved sometime before long.

You could likely find some all on your own if you switch your language preference to sites written in Latin American Spanish. When you find something copy and paste it into google translator - my guess is you'll feel a little queasy when you realize how easily you fell into the idea that the whole of South America was devoid of preservationists. I know I was embarrassed. Then I was mad. Then, I was ashamed to have repeated the ugly history of de-valuing of these people and claiming something that is rightfully theirs under the auspices that I know better than they do.

 

[Kyzmette]

You can visit Oklahoma and even though you know it's full of Native Americans and has a rich Native culture, you might never know which plants or animals play intrinsic roles in that culture. Heck, I live in Oklahoma, and I would still have to research to find that out, because it's not on billboards, and people aren't standing around telling me all about it on street corners.

As for what SparkyCrows is saying... I'm not sure exactly what is being said. That's the first time I heard the word "Copetona" on this forum, although I didn't read a lot of the earlier posts. I also looked back through your posts all the way to April of 2011 and didn't see anything on this thread since then. What are you suggesting for breeders in the US?