Color genetics thread.

[AmandaMBG]

Not possible to get different patterns/base colors in the first generation. There may some 'leakage', but it will be minimal. The birds I posted were all fathered by a black sexlink Easter Egger. He has the barring gene and solid black of his Barred Rock mother, but he also is carrying the genes of his Easter Egger father. I find that for variety of colors and patterns, you can't beat what a black sexlink rooster will produce. This is the rooster that I used to breed my black sexlinks. This is my current black sexlink rooster, Junior. The two photos above all show birds that were fathered by Junior, just to give you an idea of how much variation you can get after that first generation.

Thanks you confirmed what I was thinking. That first EE Roo is inanely handsome!!

 

[Wappoke]

Do you know what a White EE hen with a black sumatra would look like. Or with a golden phoenix?

The golden phoenix x white EE. You never know what hypostatic phenotype is expressed in the white ee- especially if it is an EE.

Golden phoenix are wild type at the E locus and carry a silver allele that is leaky. The research i have read indicates there is more than one silver allele found in the chicken genome. I have a hypothesis that the phenotype like that found in the golden phoenix is due to a silver allele that does not always prevent the production of melanosomes (tiny structures that contain pigments). The golden color found in the rooster is due to a silver allele that allows for the production of melanosomes that add red pigments to the feathers. Due to the dimorphic nature of plumage color in males and females and the fact that females can carry only one silver allele, the golden plumage color is much more prominent in the male.

I can not make accurate predictions concerning the outcome of the cross because I do not know the genotype of the white hen.

My guesses- the offspring could be some black offspring and some white offspring if the hen is dominant white

if the hen is recessive white, there are too many options on the table-I do not know the genotype of the hen. The father will give the leaky silver allele to all the offspring- every female will carry a silver allele. The males will also carry at least one silver allele.

 

[Amy King Hanson]

I was looking at the Sexlink chart and saw Partridge over Silver Laced Wyandotte creates a red Sexlink. Has anyone tried this? I have a Partridge Cochin rooster that was suppose to be a hen. I have a Silver Laced Wyandotte.

 

[junebuggena]

I was looking at the Sexlink chart and saw Partridge over Silver Laced Wyandotte creates a red Sexlink. Has anyone tried this? I have a Partridge Cochin rooster that was suppose to be a hen. I have a Silver Laced Wyandotte.

It will work. Might not be obvious at hatch, but as they start to feather in the differences should be clear. Males will have a black and white color scheme, pullets will be black and gold. The feathered legs of the Cochin is dominant, as is the rose comb of the Wyandotte.

 

[Chicken5555]

I plan on using a black Ameraucana with leakage to make easter eggers. A friend of mine doesn't understand why I can't just breed him to my other black Ameraucanas. I told them that some of the chicks my have leakage too, but they didn't seem to understand why that was a big deal. Can you guys explain in detail why it is not a good idea to breed a black Ameraucana with red leakage to other black Ameraucanas? Thanks.

 

[junebuggena]

He'll just pass that leakage on to his male offspring, and his female offspring will be carriers. Birds with leakage aren't showable, no matter how pretty they are. It would just leave you with a line of birds that are worthless in terms of breeding stock or showing.

 

[Maissan]

Hi. Is there anyone here who can help me. I so want to get more of my salmon-colored Cochin bantam, but the color is hard. Most chickens this year became the golden wheat colored. Give me advice.....

 

[Wappoke]

Hi. Is there anyone here who can help me. I so want to get more of my salmon-colored Cochin bantam, but the color is hard. Most chickens this year became the golden wheat colored. Give me advice.....

pictures of adults and a few offspring would be helpful. A picture of salmon color would help also.

 

[Maissan]

Here they are, my salmon cochin.

 

[Wappoke]

Here they are, my salmon cochin.

They are silver columbian wheaten birds. The silver is leaky or they carry autosomal red. If the males carry a sex-linked silver allele and a sex-linked gold allele then some of the females will look like the parents and some would be gold as in a buff color. If they are brown at the E locus, the buff would be a darker buff color.