color sex link OLIVE EGGER hybrids (olivians)

Mitsos Lamprogiorgos

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Which do you think is the best way to create:

a) a red sex link OLIVE EGGER hybrid (group 1 type, I don't care if the tail of the final hybrid will be white or black)?
b) a black sex link OLIVE EGGER hybrid (group 4 type)?
c) a black sex link OLIVE EGGER hybrid (group 5 type)?

In every occasion, I don't care about the size of the eggs, the hardiness of the shell, the comb type, the existence or not of crests, muffs, beards etc.
I only care about the color of the eggs laid by the final hybrid. I want dark green eggs!!!

I bought this olive egger hybrid bantam in the photo on 2009 December. She is still alive and healthy!!! My friend told me that all the offsprings were color sex-linked. She has about 90% chance of laying a dark olive egg.
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To create an olive egger using pure breeds you need a dark egg layer. That’s normally a Welsummer or one of the Marans. Then you need a blue egg layer. What colors and patterns are available to you in the Marans and blue egg layers? Part of that will depend on what country you are in and whether you limit yourself to only approved colors/patterns. Different countries recognize different colors/patterns. For example, best I can determine the only recognized colors for Marans in the US are Black Copper, Wheaten, and White. I was surprised the Cuckoo was not on that list though it is readily available from hatcheries. The French and British will have different approved colors. If you don’t limit yourself to approved colors there are a lot of unofficial colors/patterns out there.

The blue egg layers are more confusing. In the US we have eight approved colors of Ameraucana and five of large fowl Araucana. I have no idea what the Brits or French have, let alone any other country.

In the US for a black sex link olive egger I’d go with a Black Ameraucana or Black Araucana over a Cuckoo Marans. There are other colors of Ameraucana or Araucana that can work but Black should give you the cleanest head spot.

I don’t know enough of the genetics of the Ameraucana or Araucana to know if you could see the difference in down color on the chicks. We’ve discussed the problems with using solid white birds for the hens in that other thread. None of the other approved colors looked promising to me.
 
Nice!!!

Someone told me about barnevelder and crested cream legbar!!!
Is it possible to create color sex link and olivian both with these two breeds?
Marans have some hatching problems so I don't want to use them, especially as mothers, despite the fact that they have the best dark egg genes.
 
I always forget about the Cream Legbar. They lay blue eggs and are both silver and barred. So they should make a good candidate for the hen in a sex linked cross.

I'd think a Welsummer over a Cream Legbar would give you a red sex link, I think you could easily see the difference in down color. I think you can use a Black Barnevelder with this hen for a black sex link, you should be able to see the spot pretty clearly.

Barnevelders, Welsummers, and Marans should be selected for dark eggs. They are not always but they should be. If you get one of these that comes from a line that lays dark eggs you should get a nice olive egg from the cross with a blue egg layer like a Cream Legbar.
 

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