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[thaiturkey]

A few people?

We have the ability to arm every man woman an child in this country an are trained in gorilla warfare by our teens. Airsoft, lazertag, hunting, Americas Army(training game)


Just look at our current war. We took over a country in a matter of days with almost no loss of life on our side. The "few people with pop guns" we are still fighting years later at a cost of thousands of lives. True military power is in the people, not the standing army.

Get real and stop listening to the propaganda. No-one intends to invade No-one. it's a myth.. If you have an enemy, it's already within. If an enemy of any kind did want to do a proper job, the check shirts and blue jeans brigade would be wiped out in an instant. You're kidding yourself.

What is the current war? I hope you don't mean the mess that's been made in Afghanistan. After all the loss of life and monetary cost, there's no pipeline, no prospect of there ever being a pipeline, the Northern Alliance is no better than the Taliban and the West is in retreat. The only winners are the arms businesses, the supply and construction businesses and the banks. Perhaps Karzai and his cronies have lined their pockets at your expense too. Better to spend the money on health care at home. eh?

 

[thaiturkey]

If there is a major shift in global power I really don't see us being on top. China and Russia have more strength and China has a much stronger economy. Although you need to account for the state mulisha, every state has a national guard presence (government) and a mulisha (civilian). They are as well trained and sometimes more trained then the Military, and often as well armed. Then you have guerrilla warfare and a good deal of the population knows how to make bombs, thanks to the internet. A civilian foe can be a force to recon with. Hear is a great example about how just one person can cause trouble..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Zaytsev

We have many retired and out of service ex military snipers that could give any invading army hell.

If there's a major shift in global power it would be because you don't look further than your own back yard. See what's happening and adapt or perish. And I'm not talking about war.

 

[thaiturkey]

You are trying to tell us what we would do. We know what we have done.

Do what you want. It's up to you. The world is changing and you might gain something from listening to different ideas. Continue as you are and it won't matter a jot to anyone else.

 

[chickened]

Get real and stop listening to the propaganda. No-one intends to invade No-one. it's a myth.. If you have an enemy, it's already within. If an enemy of any kind did want to do a proper job, the check shirts and blue jeans brigade would be wiped out in an instant. You're kidding yourself.

What is the current war? I hope you don't mean the mess that's been made in Afghanistan. After all the loss of life and monetary cost, there's no pipeline, no prospect of there ever being a pipeline, the Northern Alliance is no better than the Taliban and the West is in retreat. The only winners are the arms businesses, the supply and construction businesses and the banks. Perhaps Karzai and his cronies have lined their pockets at your expense too. Better to spend the money on health care at home. eh?

Internal propaganda is very valuable in preventing an invasion regardless if it is a threat or not. The notion that all Americans are armed says more than we all have guns it is part of our persona and reputation as a world leader that most individuals look to obtain.

Being a world leader one has to do unpopular things sometimes.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Get real and stop listening to the propaganda. No-one intends to invade No-one. it's a myth.. If you have an enemy, it's already within. If an enemy of any kind did want to do a proper job, the check shirts and blue jeans brigade would be wiped out in an instant. You're kidding yourself.

What is the current war? I hope you don't mean the mess that's been made in Afghanistan. After all the loss of life and monetary cost, there's no pipeline, no prospect of there ever being a pipeline, the Northern Alliance is no better than the Taliban and the West is in retreat. The only winners are the arms businesses, the supply and construction businesses and the banks. Perhaps Karzai and his cronies have lined their pockets at your expense too. Better to spend the money on health care at home. eh?

No one said anyone is planning to invade anyone... We keep saying we are more worried about what is already here.


I just said we got our butts handed to us by the people in the desert. Then you say the same thing and at the same time say a militia cant fight off a standing army....

 

[chickened]

Do what you want. It's up to you. The world is changing and you might gain something from listening to different ideas. Continue as you are and it won't matter a jot to anyone else.

If you are referring to the economy everything cycles and we do best under pressure... fat happy people do little.

 

[thaiturkey]

Internal propaganda is very valuable in preventing an invasion regardless if it is a threat or not. The notion that all Americans are armed says more than we all have guns it is part of our persona and reputation as a world leader that most individuals look to obtain.

Being a world leader one has to do unpopular things sometimes.

You see, you're not up to speed with what's going on.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Quote: We plan to do what we want. Why you are so set on telling us to do what you want if it does not matter is what I am lost on.

 

[Minchi]

If there's a major shift in global power it would be because you don't look further than your own back yard. See what's happening and adapt or perish. And I'm not talking about war.

The global shift would be economical and knowing that China has a much stronger economy is looking in my back yard. War has changed as well as power, there is more fear of an economic collapse that forces our country to sell to the highest bidder then an actual invasion. Although that is partly because there is an armed person "behind every blade of grass" and an invasion is financially impractical.

The bigger thing that you are missing is that yes I see the world and most Americans do but there is not a dam thing I can do about it or what my own government is doing to it. With our president passing executive orders that don't even need anyone to approve or disprove and politicians making backdoor deals and sneaking the bad in to a bill that no other politician would reject because it would be political suicide to do so. What can we do to stop it. If we vote another candidate they will do the same, voting in this country has been picking the lesser of evils for a long time. I don't think I have ever seen a candidate that I would trust to represent me or even tell the truth and do what they say they will. Politicians represent themselves, they do just enough to try and be less evil then the other guy (often on the surface only) but then they do what they can to gain wealth and they are willing to sacrifice others and even lives to get it. All you see is what your own government wants you to see, unless you can say you have a truly unbiased media. If so let me know your news stations I would love to read unbiased news for once. I already read British, french, US, and Japanese news.

 

[mom'sfolly]

Afghanistan...the British couldn't control it, the Russians couldn't (maybe because the US was buying the Afghans weapons) and the US can't. No real surprise. And if you do read history, you will know that the US supported the Taliban, for several reasons. One reason what the Taliban stopped poppy growing.

We've done what we intended in Afghanistan, we got the Al Queda leaders. I still think Pakistan has some answering to do. Either they were completely oblivious or in collusion; neither bodes well for continued cordial relations.

As for the widespread civil chaos, and the need to defend yourselves on a daily basis...I think it is tinfoil hat territory. JMHO.

The only large scale natural disasters that would cause more than a single city problems in the US are things like a major California earthquake or Mt Hood or Ranier erupting, or a huge subsidence earthquake and subsequent tsunami. I would find it very difficult to believe the entire US would descend into anarchy even in such an extreme event. As for an invasion...not even in my wildest imagination could I believe that this could successfully happen in the US.

As for the militia groups; if widespread social chaos and anarchy happened, I wouldn't rely on them to do more than contribute to the problems. Most of these groups have agendas, some of them are fairly unpleasant. And if by militia you mean an armed citizenry, I suspect they would also add to the issues. Nothing anyone has said in terms of "protecting" themselves mentioned working for the greater good, only the selfish motives of "I'll get/protect/save mine, and to hell with anyone else".