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I went all in and decided not to go medicated. Maybe it's the word "Medicated" but I'd rather not have any antibiotics in my eggs or chickens. I may lose some chicks or birds, but that's life.
And yes I plan to use organic feed even though it's a lot more expensive.

Amprolium isn't actually an antibiotic. It's an anti-parasitic. It's not something the chickens can build an immunity to because their body doesn't actually use it. The amprolium travels along the digestive tract (and isn't absorbed) waiting to be eaten by coccidia. It then affects the way coccidia process thiamine, which kills it. It doesn't go in and lay waste to the coccidia that are there already, and it doesn't actively keep the chicken from growing them. The coccidia have to eat it for it to work. Because it isn't absorbed by the chicken, the meat and eggs are safe to eat with zero withdrawal. Just because it's safe, doesn't mean you should or shouldn't use it. The coccidia are more of a worry once the chickies are exposed to dirt, grass and other chickens (birds in general too, I think) because the coccidia can live in egg form for a very long time.

The word "medicated" has so many meanings. In the general sense it means medication is added. But, where do we draw the line as to what is medication and what is not? Aspirin is definitely, but what about the vitamins I have to take to help with blood clotting issues? B6 and B12, added in large amounts, prescribed by a doctor. Does that make them medication. What about adding iodine to salt? It helps keep thyroid problems at bay. If that isn't a medically induced practice then I don't know what is.

It's up to everyone to make their own choices, but you should have access to all the info when you make them.


This got me thinking about the GMO stuff and peoples mentality surrounding it. I agree that GMOs aren't really a good thing, BUT, I don't think we should be all crazy "OMG ALL GMOs ARE BAD!!11!!!!!1!!!" What about cross pollination? If you save the seeds from a cross pollinated plant, you are planting a genetically modified seed. Naturally modified, but modified none the less.

blah, sorry about the rant.
 
Amprolium isn't actually an antibiotic. It's an anti-parasitic. It's not something the chickens can build an immunity to because their body doesn't actually use it. The amprolium travels along the digestive tract (and isn't absorbed) waiting to be eaten by coccidia. It then affects the way coccidia process thiamine, which kills it. It doesn't go in and lay waste to the coccidia that are there already, and it doesn't actively keep the chicken from growing them. The coccidia have to eat it for it to work. Because it isn't absorbed by the chicken, the meat and eggs are safe to eat with zero withdrawal. Just because it's safe, doesn't mean you should or shouldn't use it. The coccidia are more of a worry once the chickies are exposed to dirt, grass and other chickens (birds in general too, I think) because the coccidia can live in egg form for a very long time.

The word "medicated" has so many meanings. In the general sense it means medication is added. But, where do we draw the line as to what is medication and what is not? Aspirin is definitely, but what about the vitamins I have to take to help with blood clotting issues? B6 and B12, added in large amounts, prescribed by a doctor. Does that make them medication. What about adding iodine to salt? It helps keep thyroid problems at bay. If that isn't a medically induced practice then I don't know what is.

It's up to everyone to make their own choices, but you should have access to all the info when you make them.


This got me thinking about the GMO stuff and peoples mentality surrounding it. I agree that GMOs aren't really a good thing, BUT, I don't think we should be all crazy "OMG ALL GMOs ARE BAD!!11!!!!!1!!!" What about cross pollination? If you save the seeds from a cross pollinated plant, you are planting a genetically modified seed. Naturally modified, but modified none the less.

blah, sorry about the rant.
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WOW! Information overload. Thanks for the clearification.
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still not using the stuff though.

All GMO's are bad in my personal opinion. I'm not gonna rant on it, but modifying food is not a good thing. I know it happens naturally and it should stay that way!
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Sorry for the not so great photos but here are a couple pics of my two roosters. They are super sweet if anyone is in the market they are free to a good home!
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Amprolium isn't actually an antibiotic. It's an anti-parasitic. It's not something the chickens can build an immunity to because their body doesn't actually use it. The amprolium travels along the digestive tract (and isn't absorbed) waiting to be eaten by coccidia. It then affects the way coccidia process thiamine, which kills it. It doesn't go in and lay waste to the coccidia that are there already, and it doesn't actively keep the chicken from growing them. The coccidia have to eat it for it to work. Because it isn't absorbed by the chicken, the meat and eggs are safe to eat with zero withdrawal. Just because it's safe, doesn't mean you should or shouldn't use it. The coccidia are more of a worry once the chickies are exposed to dirt, grass and other chickens (birds in general too, I think) because the coccidia can live in egg form for a very long time.
Great post - seems I read on another thread that the amprollium may also inhibit the chicks' ability to absorb or properly utilize thiamine, but I don't remember whether this was fact or theory. Both medicated and non-medicated chick foods have been used for a very long time, and the chicks seem to survive and grow. I have used both, and can't really say I've noted a difference. That being true, I've opted for non-medicated this year. Last year when raising my laying flock I used medicated. In the grand scheme of things, I'd prefer to use non-medicated but if it was unavailable I wouldn't be too upset about using medicated.
 
WOW! I know it's going to sound a little odd, but I'm glad to hear some of the 'family thinks I'm weird stories.' I guess they feel inspirational and supportive. I'm 27 and never really fit in with my family and am just now starting to grow a thicker skin when it comes to their judgments and opinions. Thanks guys!

I am old enough to know not to worry about what other people think. My family expressed their concerns over this adventure, and I came back with showing just how cost-efficient raising your own chickens can be; plus it will get the grandkids involved in learning how to be responsible and they can actually have hands on experience. Plus it will give my 20 year old son something to do until he can find a job.
I showed my son my coop plans tonight when he picked up his 7 month old I babysit for, and he says "Ma, why chickens?" I replied, "Would you rather it be snakes?" He gave me a 'deer in the headlights' look and said, "I'll help you as much as I can....."....then I said, "You know I'm gonna do what I want to do anyway, so enjoy some of the benefits!"

They still all think I'm a loon....well so be it....I'm a very HAPPY LOON!!
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Sorry for the not so great photos but here are a couple pics of my two roosters. They are super sweet if anyone is in the market they are free to a good home!
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are these mutts? they are absolutely gorgeous and so much better looking than what mine look. mine are all fuzzy. these guys are gorgeous.
 
Great post - seems I read on another thread that the amprollium may also inhibit the chicks' ability to absorb or properly utilize thiamine, but I don't remember whether this was fact or theory. Both medicated and non-medicated chick foods have been used for a very long time, and the chicks seem to survive and grow. I have used both, and can't really say I've noted a difference. That being true, I've opted for non-medicated this year. Last year when raising my laying flock I used medicated. In the grand scheme of things, I'd prefer to use non-medicated but if it was unavailable I wouldn't be too upset about using medicated.

There was a study done and it showed that it could inhibit the chicks absorbtion, but it was like 400 times the amount that is in feed. It's like the studies that say caffiene (or just about anything else) causes cancer in rats, when they give the rat 1000 times the amount found in anything. I tend to use the medicated because it's cheaper than the unmedicated and I don't see any reason not to. (Purina brand, medicated 50lbs, unmedicated 40lbs, same price)
 

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