And there you go. I actually have subscribed not only to the old timer's thread, but also to Walt, Al, NYREDS, Fred's hens, and a couple of others. They almostalways have fantastic info, but many times what they post is direct, something that many apparently have a hard time with.I find it amusing that people here come on the Old Timers thread, apparently spend no time reading ANY of the early part of the thread, and then proceed to tell the Old Timers that they don't have much experience, only a few months, but they have found that the methods promoted there won't work for THEIR birds. LMAO