Commercial Poison (err... "Feed")

[fuzzi]

Wow! That was a really strong reaction. If it was one farm or it was November or molt, it wouldn’t effect everyone. Changes in feed wouldn’t fix the problems even if it was September. It also wouldn’t have driven egg prices up to $8. A dozen. Guess I’ll find someplace else to get information from. Thx!

Feed is a hot button topic right now.

Try to not take personally the strong reactions by some.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Everybody’s hens stopped laying according to the research.

. If it was one farm or it was November or molt, it wouldn’t effect everyon

Except it WASN'T everyone that had birds stop laying. Not to mention the rise of egg processed likely had more to do with the flu than anything else

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Feed is a hot button topic right now.

Try to not take personally the strong reactions by some.

Feed isn't a hot topic, its the usual disputes. How much does crude protein matter? Is 6% fat too much? How do I feed my rooters and hens at the same time? What's the best way to manage calcium intake? Why does my waterer leak? Ferment yes/no? ACV yes/no? Its been pretty steady for years.

Nonsensical conspiracy theories advanced on the strength of "Someone said that... and I'm not saying, but..." then repeated ad nauseum on social media by people with less than a dozen posts to their name, mostly reinforcing that nonsense, are simply trollish.

 

[21hens-incharge]

To look at it all in the most simple and logical terms.....

Feed companies are not in business to produce eggs. They produce feed.
What would be their gain if their feed caused chickens to stop laying???
Nothing. It would be a LOSS as everyone would switch feed.

Egg producers purchase feed (I am sure some very large producers make their own but definitely use a proven recipe).


There is simply zero logic in believing that feed companies have decided to deliberately cause chickens to stop laying.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

To look at it all in the most simple and logical terms.....

Feed companies are not in business to produce eggs. They produce feed.
What would be their gain if their feed caused chickens to stop laying???
Nothing. It would be a LOSS as everyone would switch feed.

Egg producers purchase feed (I am sure some very large producers make their own but definitely use a proven recipe).


There is simply zero logic in believing that feed companies have decided to deliberately cause chickens to stop laying.

Locally, egg producers for some of the names you recognize in the stores have to buy feed from the brand. Basically, the brand provides the birds, the brand provides the feed, the local grower provides the land, facilites, water, power, labor. It drove a lot of the growers to bankruptcy over the past few years. But it does allow the brand to control what the birds are eating.

Otherwise, yes, its absolutely nonsensical to sacrifice a highly profitable feed business in order to prop up an egg business with has smaller margins and much less market valuation - so much less that some feed producers bought major egg producers with just a few month's profits from the feed business.

 

[21hens-incharge]

To me this is all the same as saying....

"None of my tomato seed from so and so sprouted! THEY must have sprayed the seeds with preen or something to make them not sprout!"

Zero logic and not taking into account seed storage/handling by the in between people or the seed starting method.


Disclaimer: The above is not true in my case. ALL my tomato seeds sprouted.

 

[fuzzi]

Feed isn't a hot topic, its the usual disputes. How much does crude protein matter? Is 6% fat too much? How do I feed my rooters and hens at the same time? What's the best way to manage calcium intake? Why does my waterer leak? Ferment yes/no? ACV yes/no? Its been pretty steady for years.

Nonsensical conspiracy theories advanced on the strength of "Someone said that... and I'm not saying, but..." then repeated ad nauseum on social media by people with less than a dozen posts to their name, mostly reinforcing that nonsense, are simply trollish.

You obviously have a lot of knowledge about the topic.

But shutting down people's queries by labeling them as conspiracy theorists doesn't educate, it only drives them away from knowledge.

Sure, it gets tiring at times to repeat the same stuff posted elsewhere, but that's part of education. Ask teachers.

 

[fuzzi]

Otherwise, yes, its absolutely nonsensical to sacrifice a highly profitable feed business in order to prop up an egg business with has smaller margins and much less market valuation - so much less that some feed producers bought major egg producers with just a few month's profits from the feed business.

Agreed, it's nonsensical.

Ask Anheuser Busch how that Bud Light campaign turned out. Stupid, nonsensical, but someone thought it was a nifty idea.

 

[Cindy in PA]

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I am looking to mix my own feed so I know what my girls are eating. I did some research on Cal-Maine foods, purina, pilgrims pride, and tractor supply. “They” listed above, lowered the protein in layer feeds and started the egg shortage. Everybody’s hens stopped laying according to the research.

So, I want to find a good recipe to mix my own feed. Anyone willing to share your recipes? Please and thank you Maxine

Who said they lowered the protein & where can I see that? Purina still states 16% layer feed & 20% flock raiser.

 

[U_Stormcrow]

You obviously have a lot of knowledge about the topic.

But shutting down people's queries by labeling them as conspiracy theorists doesn't educate, it only drives them away from knowledge.

Sure, it gets tiring at times to repeat the same stuff posted elsewhere, but that's part of education. Ask teachers.

They "researched". Then said things that were patently, obviously untrue with just a trivial amount of "research". Which they then started spewing. Ad nauseum.

I submit there was no evidence poster was interested in education, merely regurgitating a broadly discredited worldview which persists in spite of plausible motive, plausible method, plausible means. Even "Mike" whose self-aggrandizing media empire I won't link here, who helped spread the conspiracy theory has backed away from it, after his award winning (technically true) lab found nothing wrong, and he admitted he didn't understand enough to read the results.