Consolidated Kansas

[averytds]

Congrats on the first egg! Just start mixing the 2 feeds or make extra calcium available. I saw first hand yesterday what a difference the proper feed makes. It was shocking. CX from the same batch but fed scratch vs grower. They were 5 weeks and still looked like chicks!

I too buy the assembled panels now. Orscheln's runs them on sale all the time.


On the youth fair injustice, age rules are 3 and up for inside exhibits and 5 and up for outside livestock. They have been allowing 3 year olds and higher to show poultry and rabbits as inside exhibits. The girl was 6, so completely qualified no matter which group. I can also name multiple occasions in the last 4 or 5 years that we started attending, in which peewee's have won Grand or Reserve on things. This has always been promoted as a youth fair with lots of references in rules, adverts and what not as no 4-H necessary, open to all youth, open to the little ones. We don't have Cloverbuds. Our 4-H agent doesn't allow it. This is the only chance the little ones get. We have multiple fairs for 4-Hers.

They said it was an unwritten rule that everyone knew about and it just hadn't been being enforced over the years. That it wasn't fair to the older kids who might lose to a little kid who probably received a lot more help with their projects. Just rubbish IMO. A kid whose project lives out of town at their grandparent's house (we all know there are lots of those) would be 100% ok as GC if they're 7+, but under 7, nope, because someone might have helped with theirs.

If they want to do little ones as participation only, I'm ok with that, but they need to put that in the written rules. I am not ok with what they did last night at all and the idea that they could justify their actions to themselves in any way is dumbfounding.

My son made it alright for the little girl. He won GC in showmanship and gave her his ribbon to replace the one they took and we got the newspaper guy to take her picture. Pretty sad that a mentally disabled kid was able to recognize the unfairness and step-up when the adults wouldn't.

The GC I declined for my youngest was for showmanship. Not sure how I could have been the one doing the work since I wasn't even there, but....IDK. I too know of lots of little ones pulling there own weight. I said flat out a 6 year old is perfectly capable of tending their own birds. I know for a fact the little girl in question does as her mother is a stickler for that. This little girl showed for the first time last year and spent the entire year since then getting ready.

Sigh. Have to go. Time to get back to the fair.

 

[schellie69]

Congrats on the first egg! Just start mixing the 2 feeds or make extra calcium available. I saw first hand yesterday what a difference the proper feed makes. It was shocking. CX from the same batch but feed scratch vs grower. They were 5 weeks and still looked like chicks!


On the youth fair injustice, age rules are 3 and up for inside exhibits and 5 and up for outside livestock. They have been allowing 3 year olds and higher to show poultry and rabbits as inside exhibits. The girl was 6, so completely qualified no matter which group. I can also name multiple occasions in the last 4 or 5 years that we started attending, in which peewee's have won Grand or Reserve on things. This has always been promoted as a youth fair with lots of references in rules, adverts and what not as no 4-H necessary, open to all youth, open to the little ones. We don't have Cloverbuds. Our 4-H agent doesn't allow it. This is the only chance the little ones get. We have multiple fairs for 4-Hers.

They said it was an unwritten rule that everyone knew about and it just hadn't been being enforced over the years. That it wasn't fair to the older kids who might lose to a little kid who probably received a lot more help with their projects. Just rubbish IMO. A kid whose project lives out of town at their grandparent's house (we all know there are lots of those) would be 100% ok as GC if they're 7+, but under 7, nope, because someone might have helped with theirs.

If they want to do little ones as participation only, I'm ok with that, but they need to put that in the written rules. I am not ok with what they did last night at all and the idea that they could justify their actions to themselves in any way is dumbfounding.

My son made it alright for the little girl. He won GC in showmanship and gave her his ribbon to replace the one they took and we got the newspaper guy to take her picture. Pretty sad that a mentally disabled kid was able to recognize the unfairness and step-up when the adults wouldn't.

I can't believe that they did that to her I am glad that your son made it up to the little girl, If they are worried about upsetting the older kids then they need to make different age groups. I am sorry this happened. I am still looking for a home for my little pheasant can any help or know who I might be able to ask thanks for any help.

 

[chicken danz]

schellie69, you never mentioned where you were. I can't keep a ringneck because of the laws but others I can. I could probably tell what it is by looking at the chick.
Josie I was just doing some reading on the UPA. Here is what they recommended for worming. Use Tramisol (1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water) or Ivomec & Panacur. Ivomec is given at a dosage per adult bird of ¹ cc per bird. Panacur is dosed at 1/10 cc per 2 pounds or approximately ¸ cc per bird.
I have Ivomec but it doesn't specify if that is injectable or pour on. Maybe if I put some in their water bowl they will all get some worming. I am speaking of my adult birds, not the babies. Of course they all stand in their water to keep cool and in the big pen I have a big pan for them to cool their feet besides their drinking water.
I don't really like Wazine although I have some. I use it on my turkeys and recently used it on my chickens but of course that meant egg withdrawal. It worries me because I'm afraid the ducks will get into it.
I just checked the incubator. I think I have a full dozen of lemon cuckoo chicks hatched! Yippee!!! Guess I'd better get a bin ready for them so they can move when they are dry enough.
I've been hatching a few chicks every day from random eggs I let the hens start. They just keep coming. Too bad they aren't of some value except to someone who just wants barnyard birds. I need to do a major cull around here again but no one wants birds in this heat.
It's breaking the bank for sure.
My grand daughter chose a duck out of the hatcher a couple days ago and has ti strongly imprinted on her. It really is cute. Anyone want a tame duck when she leaves? I hate to put it out in the pen with the rest. It's a little cayuga.

 

[schellie69]

I will try and post a picture of her later and you and can tell me what kind she is thanks for any help. I live in Salina

 

[cherwill]

I GOT MY FIRST EGG THIS MORNING!!!


Dunno who laid it, but of all things, I found it on the patio under the misters.. LOL! So excited! I guess its time to switch from the grower food to the layer food! (Think that will be ok for the silkies who aren't laying and 6 weeks behind?)

Congratulations!

 

[JosieChick]

It's RAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YIPEE!!!!!!!!!!! I don't even care that there is stuff all over the yard that is probably going to get ruined in the rain or that Molly and Lucie just got groomed yesterday and are going to be giant mudballs!!!

Hawkeye I swear I am like Trish I prefer large fowl but those silkies are adorable. I do have a few of my bantams but only because they sell well and don't eat all that much. My silkies weren't any where near that cute.

Josie I don't like birds on wire either. I am still waiting on my answer. I've been trying to get in touch with a gal that lives fairly close that raises several hundred a year. I would really love to go visit her place and see how they do. I thought about putting the peafowl in the brooder house but I sure am nervous about making sure there are no contaminates of any kind. I don't think I can keep him in the house until he is 4 months old. Unless things change I don't think wet ground will be a problem though. I read somewhere to worm them in the spring and fall. Maybe that was on the peafowl thread for BYC. Also that other people raise on wood with with wood chips rather than wire. I still haven't gotten any kind of answer on how many square feet per bird they need.

I may try to make a trip to Leggs some day to check him out as well. I'm afraid I would come home with a lot less money in my pocket and a bunch of new kinds I wanted to get

Josie I was just doing some reading on the UPA. Here is what they recommended for worming. Use Tramisol (1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water) or Ivomec & Panacur. Ivomec is given at a dosage per adult bird of ¹ cc per bird. Panacur is dosed at 1/10 cc per 2 pounds or approximately ¸ cc per bird.
I have Ivomec but it doesn't specify if that is injectable or pour on. Maybe if I put some in their water bowl they will all get some worming. I am speaking of my adult birds, not the babies. Of course they all stand in their water to keep cool and in the big pen I have a big pan for them to cool their feet besides their drinking water.
I don't really like Wazine although I have some. I use it on my turkeys and recently used it on my chickens but of course that meant egg withdrawal. It worries me because I'm afraid the ducks will get into it.
I just checked the incubator. I think I have a full dozen of lemon cuckoo chicks hatched! Yippee!!! Guess I'd better get a bin ready for them so they can move when they are dry enough.
My grand daughter chose a duck out of the hatcher a couple days ago and has ti strongly imprinted on her. It really is cute. Anyone want a tame duck when she leaves? I hate to put it out in the pen with the rest. It's a little cayuga.

 

[michelleml]

hawkeye love your little fluff balls. tweety congrats on your first egg i can't wait to get some of ours.

how old do they need to be to let them free range? they are about 10-12 wks old now i believe.

Its raining we so need it.

Anyone have horses? i found an old palomino mare about 12 yrs old that they are selling but from what i gathered she was rode rough by previous owners and will limp if she is ridden hard. she had a foal in june but it didn't make it. She is broke to ride and very gentle. They are selling her for 100.00 i would like to have her for my kids to ride what do you all think? im not experienced enough too know if something else is wrong

 

[chicken danz]

Josie if you find out I have the Ivermectin pour on and I have the ivermection injectable 200. I don't know which to use or how. I have 6 grown peafowl and I doubt any of them have ever been wormed. Of course it isn't raining here!!!
I just moved my little turkeys out to their new pen. They are switching between being scared and huddling to running and jumping and trying to fly. I am so attached to these little guys cause I've played with them since I hatched them. I went out to the pen and they all ran up to me. Breaks my heart to think of them outside. When I walked away they were all at the fence crying (or yelling in their case.)
Josie I'm doing some checking before I answer your PM.

 

[Trish44]

Michelle, your chicks should be old enough to free range during the day, I have mine out now that are part of my general flock & they don't venture too far from the run yet, but they do like to go across the driveway & look for bugs in the bushes over there. Congrats on the rain! It's still dry as an old bone here.

Shellie, we have a KS Poultry Swap on FaceBook if you're on there, here is the link for it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/275183675880038/. After you find out what kind of pheasant you have you can post a pic & put a post up on there & there probably would be someone who would want it. Just go to the page & ask to join & one of us will approve you. Be sure to put your location on the ad if you post so people will know where they would have to come to get it.

Avery, that's just not right about what happened at the fair with that little girl. I could see it if there was a written rule, but if not then they shouldn't have done that. That just sours the experience for everyone when something like that happens. It sounds like they need age classes if they're going to do things like that.

Tweety, congrats on the egg! It always seems like forever before you start getting any.

Danz, congrats on the lemon cuckoo chicks, yay! Don't you just feel like you jumped a hurdle when you finally get some you've been wanting so bad to hatch? That's kind of how I felt with the Swedish Flower chicks. Oh & I candled the one remaining Cream Legbar egg in the incubator today just to make sure it was still viable because it's the one & only egg in there. I just figured if it's not doing anything I will just take it out & shut the thing down. But guess what, it moved!!! Out of 12 eggs the guy ended up sending me maybe I'm going to get one chick. Keep your fingers crossed that it keeps going. It goes into lockdown the 18th. So at 3 months what wormer is best to use for peachicks? I hate to spend huge bucks to buy wormer for 2 chicks. Can I use wazine for my turkeys? I have it & I don't like to use it for the chickens because of the long egg withdrawal, so if I could at least use it for the turkeys it wouldn't go to waste. I had used it once before my chickens were laying.

 

[schellie69]

Michelle, your chicks should be old enough to free range during the day, I have mine out now that are part of my general flock & they don't venture too far from the run yet, but they do like to go across the driveway & look for bugs in the bushes over there. Congrats on the rain! It's still dry as an old bone here.

Shellie, we have a KS Poultry Swap on FaceBook if you're on there, here is the link for it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/275183675880038/. After you find out what kind of pheasant you have you can post a pic & put a post up on there & there probably would be someone who would want it. Just go to the page & ask to join & one of us will approve you. Be sure to put your location on the ad if you post so people will know where they would have to come to get it.

Avery, that's just not right about what happened at the fair with that little girl. I could see it if there was a written rule, but if not then they shouldn't have done that. That just sours the experience for everyone when something like that happens. It sounds like they need age classes if they're going to do things like that.

Tweety, congrats on the egg! It always seems like forever before you start getting any.

Danz, congrats on the lemon cuckoo chicks, yay! Don't you just feel like you jumped a hurdle when you finally get some you've been wanting so bad to hatch? That's kind of how I felt with the Swedish Flower chicks. Oh & I candled the one remaining Cream Legbar egg in the incubator today just to make sure it was still viable because it's the one & only egg in there. I just figured if it's not doing anything I will just take it out & shut the thing down. But guess what, it moved!!! Out of 12 eggs the guy ended up sending me maybe I'm going to get one chick. Keep your fingers crossed that it keeps going. It goes into lockdown the 18th. So at 3 months what wormer is best to use for peachicks? I hate to spend huge bucks to buy wormer for 2 chicks. Can I use wazine for my turkeys? I have it & I don't like to use it for the chickens because of the long egg withdrawal, so if I could at least use it for the turkeys it wouldn't go to waste. I had used it once before my chickens were laying.

Thank you for the link I have send a request to join. I will try and get a picture she/he is very jumpy so it can be a little hard to get a good picture.