Consolidated Kansas

[OzawkieBantams]

Ok MRI results are........ A Torn tendon in my wrist........ oh boy! now I have to see a Surgeon.

Verna,
her legs are already fused. she hurt her legs about three months ago when she tried to jump out of my hands.

 

[Hawkeye95]

MaximusMG, congrats on getting the ordinance changed! Maybe Derby will change theirs now at some point too if someone asks. What kind of chicks are you planning to get?

I went out this evening, it was actually cool enough to feel like doing something so I moved some dirt around my last pen I put up to hold the rocks I put around it. It's just kind of a barrier to help keep things from digging under & having rocks underneath the dirt is kind of a deterrent. My DH & I were discussing the little pullet that got killed & we think Lily went & found her & brought her back to me because he saw her carrying her down the driveway when he was leaving early that morning to go to OKC. She laid her in the front yard where she knew I would see her & laid beside her until I came to pick her up. I think she got lost in the trees & ran into a possum in there because the damage just looked like possum to me. The dogs probably didn't find her in time.

I decided to shut the young pullets in the coop tonight to see if I can get them to go in there instead of roosting on the guinea pen. It seems cool enough tonight for the door to be shut with all the windows open & all, so hopefully they all will be OK. They've been making a big mess on the guinea pen & pooping down into their water so I would like to get them to get in the habit of going into the coop instead. I'm also having quite a time getting them to go in at night. All of the older hens & roosters go in about 8, but the youngsters want to stay out until dark, which I would rather they wouldn't do. It's just a hassle to try to chase them all in every night when they don't want to go. Hopefully they will start going in earlier as it gets dark earlier. That I'm not looking forward to, but just some cooler weather & some rain would be great. I hope we get a fall instead of going right from 100 degrees into winter.

Sunflowerparrot & I are going to experiment with the cattail stuff for bedding for our coops, so we'll let you all know what the verdict is after we've had it in there for awhile. I have a layer of pine shavings in mine already, so I'm going to go get some cattail cuttings tomorrow evening & add a layer of it to my coop & see how it goes. It's free so we figure we might as well put it to some good use. If you could see all the area they have cattails growing you would be as amazed as I was, I have never seen anything like it. If it wasn't for this drought they would have a lot of water there. Right now it's drying up & you can see where the water has been. In a wet year though it would be pretty amazing back there, just a natural wetland.

I hope Derby does change!! They need to GET WITH IT! I can't wait to hear about the cattails! Hope you get your littles into the coop!

So, I've kept quiet on the subject because I thought it was a fluke, but.... I had my gall bladder removed about 7 years ago and after that I was unable to eat eggs. They really did a number on me. I could eat them in cakes and cookies, but fried eggs - forget about it. I'd better be home and near a toilet for a couple days. Kinda ironic that I wanted chickens, huh? LOL. Well, since I've gotten my own eggs, I've decided to make myself scrambled eggs a few times. OMG do they taste better than I ever remembered! I'm sure it's cuz they are fresh and not just cuz I hadn't eaten on in a while. Anyways, I've had absolutely NO issues with them at all! You have no idea how excited I am. I can eat a fried egg sandwich and feel no ill side effects! I've come to the conclusion that it must be due to the diet of the chickens.

I don't think it's a fluke, I'd say it's a testament to what the production birds are eating and having put in their bodies at the big barns. This is what I've been saying for years! About paper diapers filled with chemicals that is causing infertility and the GMO's causing cancer, vaccinations too early, and all the other crap we are putting in our bodies. I think I've been crunchy before there was even a word for it-- but that comes from growing up with parents who farm (and still do) and always doing a lot of living off the land. People get really snippy and won't believe you though and think you're crazy. But I think when we are eating whole/natural foods and careful about what we're eating, we're going to feel a lot better for it.

Welp - time to get breakfast, shower, and out the door in an hour. Have a great day everyone - I LOVE THIS GROUP! You may not know it, but each of you have coffee with me every morning

Love it! Yeah it has been a beautiful day!

@ Tweety,
Yes was almost a two hour wait. Then the jack wagon running the MRI asks me where and what part of my wirst hurts, so I told t him. and he grabs my hand a yanks it into this box like thing. OMG........ IF IT DIDN'T HURT SO BAD THAT LITTLE HALF SIZED MAN WOULD HAVE STOPPED BREATHING RIGHT THERE!
No apology or nothing. Now i don't care if he was having a bad day or not that was BS!
Ifit would have been my choice OPRMC is where I would have gone. yep would have cost me sixy bucks in gas , but would have been worth it.

Yikes, Daren, I would have come unglued if someone treated me like that! I wind up in the hospital more than I care for health issues and I've learned that I have VERY difficult veins to access. I will not let anyone touch me anymore. I ask for IV team when I get there. The few times I've been in an ambulance-- more than I care to admit, they thought I was being combative because I fought with them and refused to let them try to stick me 10 million times. The one time I was totally out of and didn't have a say-- I woke up with black and blue arms because the EMT's totally messed me up. I calm down when you aren't trying to dig in my arm in 5 different places. Anyway, I've learned to speak up, that's for sure. And I don't blame you one bit for being so upset with the rough treatment. That WAS BS, for sure.



OKay-- funny! I started posting these early this morning before we left! I came home and this was still brought up on my computer. i bet there are a lot more posts now. We went to Meet the Teacher at the Preschool this morning and then spent the rest of the day at the Zoo! And it was gorgeous!!! It's been so nice and cool! And yeah, I'm going to call the low 90's cool!!! LOL!! So I'm wiped out and tired from all the walking, but what a fun time me and the kids had.

 

[sharol]

And then there is my favorite, sonograms monthly or bi-monthly for pregnant women. You CANNOT measure a system without interfering with and changing that system. I don't think you are crazy at all.

I don't think it's a fluke, I'd say it's a testament to what the production birds are eating and having put in their bodies at the big barns. This is what I've been saying for years! About paper diapers filled with chemicals that is causing infertility and the GMO's causing cancer, vaccinations too early, and all the other crap we are putting in our bodies. I think I've been crunchy before there was even a word for it-- but that comes from growing up with parents who farm (and still do) and always doing a lot of living off the land. People get really snippy and won't believe you though and think you're crazy. But I think when we are eating whole/natural foods and careful about what we're eating, we're going to feel a lot better for it.

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[Hawkeye95]

Has anyone else ever seen this before?
This hen hurt her legs some how. I put her in isolation and this is how her legs (both) heeled.
Now she walks on her Knees.

Wow, that is really odd looking. Looks like it's going to stay stuck that way, too. Breed her and then eat her? Or just see how she does, I guess. She's really pretty! Love that blue!

I was planning on having tin up to 2 feet and then hardware cloth another foot above that. Is that not enough?

I like the welded wire idea that Danz has. I used hardware cloth all around my coop and then chain link for the rest. I have used chicken wire in the past with not favorable results. I bought it for my turkey back when I had no idea that chicken wire was not predator proof. It just so happened that my turkey wasn't in the pen and our neighbor black lab came over and just took a paw swipe at the chicken wire. Broke it open and she wasn't even trying! She was just excited around us and sort of jumped on it a bit. I was shocked at how it comes undone. It just untwists. If you got the cheaper welded wire that had the larger opening, then you could wrap it in chicken wire. It would still come undone if something came up to dig on it, but at least you'd have the welded wire behind it. Personally, I'll bite the bullet and just buy the hardware cloth to begin with. You can buy it online for a pretty decent price. I think it was Wayfair??? They had a good deal.

On another note, my husband and I have been working on a pen for my ducks and goose. Their duck house will be inside this pen. We're planning on having the pen be made of chicken wire with a chicken wire top.

They'll be sitting ducks. hehehe!! Sorry, my humor is often sick!

Well we are off to start assembling our shed in a box! I am so excited. It will store hay and grain and chicken feed so it won't be in the chicken house and garage anymore. I can't wait to have all the feed in one central location. It is one of those vinyl covered metal framed things, hopefully we can get it staked in really well so it doesn't blow away!

Everyone enjoy the cooler weather! This has been wonderful with this nice cool breeze. The chickens are loving it too all out scratching around during the day instead of sitting in front of fans in the shade for a change.

oh nice!!! I think having a little shed like that would be great! Oh, we did have one, too! But it was torn apart in the winds last year. Be sure to tie it down several places on all sides. We had ours screwed down to a cement slab, and it still came up.... That was back when we couldn't decide if it were a tornado or just really strong winds that tore up all that stuff. I'm going to lay bets on a tornado, because it also blew the neighbors metal barn (20X30) stick built and cemented into the ground-- and it wound up in our pasture. Killed their two horses too-- they are directly behind us. (well as directly as you get with 20 acres separating us.)

Ok MRI results are........ A Torn tendon in my wrist........ oh boy! now I have to see a Surgeon.
Verna,
her legs are already fused. she hurt her legs about three months ago when she tried to jump out of my hands.

oh no!!! That doesn't sound good at all! No wonder it hurts! I hope they gave you some pain meds-- I think that would be on fire.

 

[Hawkeye95]

And then there is my favorite, sonograms monthly or bi-monthly for pregnant women. You CANNOT measure a system without interfering with and changing that system. I don't think you are crazy at all.

Yeah, when I was pg with the kids, I did a lot of reading up on sonograms. And guess what, the jury is out on that one. They can't conclusively say that it won't harm the baby. Oh lets not get started on everything else I could start a rant on! LOL!! I mean, I do things within reason, but am always aware of the choices I make and realize that you do things with moderation. It's the excesses we get in trouble with.


I have a GNO (girls night out) tonight! Yippee!!! We do it once a month, and play card games, etc.. So fun, and looking forward to having a break from the kids!

 

[lizzyGSR]

LizzyGSR, Rather than the expense of hardware cloth why don't you buy some 2" X 4" welded wire. I use welded wire and chicken wire for all of my pens and it is safe and strong. I think the idea of placing the chicken wire on the ground will deter digging as well. I don't ever lock my ducks in the house at night. They prefer to lay out in the open unless it is cold out. I think if your pen is secure your duck would be fine without being locked inside.

Could you possibly post a pic of what you mean when you say "I use welded wire and chicken wire". Specifically, I would like to know HOW you use them together and what you do to make your pen secure... We got the chicken wire for free, so I'm using that where possible, but I want the pen to be secure. I don't want to have to worry about my birds when I"m not around.

Can coons not reach through both the 2'X4" wire AND the chicken wire? I would love to not HAVE to lock my birds up, so if you could give me tips on how to make my pen secure, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you in advance!

 

[Hawkeye95]

Could you possibly post a pic of what you mean when you say "I use welded wire and chicken wire". Specifically, I would like to know HOW you use them together and what you do to make your pen secure... We got the chicken wire for free, so I'm using that where possible, but I want the pen to be secure. I don't want to have to worry about my birds when I"m not around.

Can coons not reach through both the 2'X4" wire AND the chicken wire? I would love to not HAVE to lock my birds up, so if you could give me tips on how to make my pen secure, I'd really appreciate it. Thank you in advance!

Here are some coops that use the larger welded wire: (then you could just wrap the lower portion with chicken wire to prevent them from reaching in and grabbing)

This one below shows how they wrapped chicken wire on the bottom-- see it?? You could just use zip ties to attach it.

You can barely see it here-- but they used hardware cloth and ran it along the bottom of the wire...

This is just an up-close of the wire Danz is talking about. Cheaper than hardware cloth.

 

[MarximusMG]

MaximusMG, congrats on getting the ordinance changed! Maybe Derby will change theirs now at some point too if someone asks. What kind of chicks are you planning to get?

Thanks! We're planning on getting 3 Black Australorps.

 

[lizzyGSR]

Here are some coops that use the larger welded wire: (then you could just wrap the lower portion with chicken wire to prevent them from reaching in and grabbing)

Thank you for the pictures! Those are nice looking coops/runs!

The chicken wire + the welded wire is enough to keep predators from reaching through and grabbing birds? I got about 150' of 8' tall chicken wire (and there's another ~150' out there that just needs to be taken down), so my pen will be chicken wire all the way around and on top with either hardware cloth or the welded wire around the bottom as reinforcements against predators.

 

[cherwill]

I know I've missed stuff over the last day or two.

So, I've kept quiet on the subject because I thought it was a fluke, but.... I had my gall bladder removed about 7 years ago and after that I was unable to eat eggs. They really did a number on me. I could eat them in cakes and cookies, but fried eggs - forget about it. I'd better be home and near a toilet for a couple days. Kinda ironic that I wanted chickens, huh? LOL. Well, since I've gotten my own eggs, I've decided to make myself scrambled eggs a few times. OMG do they taste better than I ever remembered! I'm sure it's cuz they are fresh and not just cuz I hadn't eaten on in a while. Anyways, I've had absolutely NO issues with them at all! You have no idea how excited I am. I can eat a fried egg sandwich and feel no ill side effects! I've come to the conclusion that it must be due to the diet of the chickens.

I don't think it's a fluke at all. Since I've been buying organic or growing the foods on the "dirty dozen" list (as well as anything else I can grow), my rheumatoid arthritis has not flared up nearly as severely as it used to. What goes into the things that go into our bodies makes a difference.

Just posted this on the ordinance forum and wanted to update everyone here as well. Great news - the Rose Hill Council voted to approve the request! They will now draft up the details of the ordinance and vote to approve all of the fine print on 8/20. Of course, I will keep everyone here posted.

Congratulations!

I thought I posted this a few hours ago. So here it is:
LizzyGSR, Rather than the expense of hardware cloth why don't you buy some 2" X 4" welded wire. I use welded wire and chicken wire for all of my pens and it is safe and strong.

We use the chicken wire on the inside, a layer of welded wire on the outside, untreated landscape timbers along the bottom (with the chicken wire stapled to it) and then large rocks along the landscape timbers. Chicken proof and dog proof so far.

And then there is my favorite, sonograms monthly or bi-monthly for pregnant women. You CANNOT measure a system without interfering with and changing that system. I don't think you are crazy at all.

And X-rays. For everything. Yes, sometimes they are necessary, but not every six months at the dentist and certainly not every time I get on an airplane. Antibiotics prescribed for everything, including viruses. Every new wonder pill the doctor claims has no side effects. Are you kidding? Everything has side effects. As a doctor on TV (can't remember his name) once said, "Every cure has a little poison in it." Hawkeye, I've been the sorta crunchy oddity in my family for many years, with my attitude about drugs and food and recycling and all that "hippy" stuff. They can make fun and roll their eyes all they want. I'm happy with it.