Consolidated Kansas

[Trish44]

I'm sorry for the loss of the birds for all that had losses recently. I know how heartbreaking that is when you try so hard to take good care of your birds.

Chooks, I would love to have some of those Chocolate Ameraucanas, but I just don't have room for more birds right now. I have to get some big enough to get out of the grow-out pen.

 

[sunflowerparrot]

Talk about duh, I thought she ASKED if she was a great pyr, dis is my brain....

Thanks for clarifying Hawkeye!

lol Candace... for a minute there, I wasn't too sure if you were in your right mind

 

[sunflowerparrot]

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[ChooksChick]

He is really special. I watched what the vet did, and I could have done that, but not without different tools. I put really good tweezer thingys on my list for the weekend. I'll be unwrapping the foot on Thursday (if the tape holds -- he used white tape, so it will have to be cut off), and I'll try packing it again. He used iodine on the padding. He said he had had better luck with that than with antibiotic ointment.

He is doing fine today, but of course I can't see the foot for the tape.
Quote: I have found that if you loosen a jumbo cotton ball into its flat cotton state, you can make a doughnut out of it and put the hole under the ball of the foot to support the toes without putting pressure on the pad for the healing process. I put gobs of ointment on the pad of the foot first, then the cotton doughnut, then paper first aid tape to hold it on. I then use 1" strips of vet wrap to loosely wrap the foot until it's all covered but no tension is on the webs of the toes or any part of the foot, but so that it is all secure. This will last a month if you are in the finl stages of healing, but you should check it weekly if you're at the beginning.

Danz, no we didn't get to go to Legg's, I had called him on Friday to see if he had any peachicks left & he was totally sold out, I couldn't believe he had sold all of those chicks. He wasn't going to be in town & he said he doesn't allow people to come just to look at birds anyway due to a theft this summer. I guess nobody is immune to that if you let people come to your place. Anyway, that was kind of disappointing because I was looking forward to seeing all the colors he has, maybe in the spring he will have some but I don't know if they will be hatching in March or not, that's when I'll be going back up there to the Dr. again. I normally only go once a year, but he wanted me to come back in 6 mo. this time, I'm trying a new medication & he's talking about maybe putting me in a medical trial too, we'll see. I didn't get to meet the gal either with the little buck rabbit I wanted, she sold it to someone else when she knew I was coming up & I was planning to make arrangements to meet her, it made me angry. So now I'm in search of another buck for breeding, grrrr.

Chooks, those Orps are beautiful, I just looked at that guy's website! But man are they expensive too, I can't afford any more pricey birds this year, maybe next year. BTW, did you get your Ameraucanas from KarenS? I still can't tell the sex for sure on two of the ones I kept from this year. The black is really hard to tell sex on.

I was out looking at my little Swedish Flower Hen chicks earlier & I have several that are developing crests, they're so cute! I have one non-crested one that I think is really going to be pretty too, it's white with all the colors of spots on it. I keep forgetting to go out there with my camera & take some new pics.

Yes, his stuff is amazing, and it's sticker-shock, for sure, but well worth it to inject those genes into already good stock. It can improve American standard birds without making them too English.

Avery and Josie, so sorry about your lost hens. Josie - any thoughts as to what caused this death? It hasn't been a good news day around here, with Danz, Avery and Josie all losing a bird unexpectedly.

Renee - always good to hear from you when you get a chance to check in. The NQB8R sounds like an awesome deal but I can already picture DH's face if I came up with a way to incubate even more eggs than I can now. He's pretty tolerant of me setting a dozen eggs here and there (although he does like to warn that we'll run out of space to keep birds eventually) but I'm pretty sure he'd start looking into committing me involuntarily if I came up with a way to incubate a hundred or more at a time.

Yeah....hubby wanted to flog me when I built it...but I couldn't help myself!!

 

[sharol]

Thanks for the info. I'll put it in the "remedys" folder on my computer so that I'll have it in writing when I need it.

I have found that if you loosen a jumbo cotton ball into its flat cotton state, you can make a doughnut out of it and put the hole under the ball of the foot to support the toes without putting pressure on the pad for the healing process. I put gobs of ointment on the pad of the foot first, then the cotton doughnut, then paper first aid tape to hold it on. I then use 1" strips of vet wrap to loosely wrap the foot until it's all covered but no tension is on the webs of the toes or any part of the foot, but so that it is all secure. This will last a month if you are in the finl stages of healing, but you should check it weekly if you're at the beginning.
Yes, his stuff is amazing, and it's sticker-shock, for sure, but well worth it to inject those genes into already good stock. It can improve American standard birds without making them too English.

Yeah....hubby wanted to flog me when I built it...but I couldn't help myself!!

 

[sharol]

"I just got back from the PO to drop off my pullet to send to K State for a necropsy. I just can't imagine what did her in. They have all been fine. I did lose my favorite serama hen this past weekend but she was an old girl, maybe almost five years old so I assumed it was old age. Maybe she caught a bug and this hen had it too"

What is the procedure for sending a bird to K State? How much does it cost? (just for future reference) (what is with the gray stuff??)

 

[ChooksChick]

"I just got back from the PO to drop off my pullet to send to K State for a necropsy. I just can't imagine what did her in. They have all been fine. I did lose my favorite serama hen this past weekend but she was an old girl, maybe almost five years old so I assumed it was old age. Maybe she caught a bug and this hen had it too"

What is the procedure for sending a bird to K State? How much does it cost? (just for future reference) (what is with the gray stuff??)

http://www.vet.k-state.edu/depts/dmp/service/pathology/necropsy.htm tells about their process, and https://www.vet.k-state.edu/depts/dmp/service/diagfeeschedule/DiagFeeSchedule.aspx?Category=Necropsy gives you the details for the costs. Generally if you write out lots of details on the form (click on the necropsy name on the left in the price list for the form) they will be able to do the determining for you of what is necessary, and they will call you to let you choose whether they should progress or not. You MUST tell them to call you and put your number in the comments. I've found them to be immensely helpful and able to make the most with the least fees. I've fortunately never had a contagion be my issue, but things like internal fracture (from a fall) or yolk peritonitis, etc.

 

[ChooksChick]

Oh, also, I just usually do a gross necropsy and give instructions to call to proceed.

 

[Hawkeye95]

I'll let the girls know you liked their birds. Technically the only AOV is the Frost, but the computer system only offers white/black/AOV. I'm pretty ticked off at the fair right now and don't know if we'll return next year. The entire event this year has been nothing but screw-up after screw-up where the poultry is concerned. (Opens) Some of the problems have been inconvenient (splitting up classes, no cages) while some have been completely egregious (removing sick birds and putting healthy ones right into those cages). Now they're medicating the entire barn. We were informed one of our birds even died yesterday. Anyone who goes, remember to shower, change and clean shoes before visiting your flock.

OH wow-- I had no idea those birds are yours!! Hey, they are great looking birds!! Beautiful! I'm very sorry about your Blue. I saw the AOV listed on your Blues and figured they must have been blue partridge, except that I didn't see the gold leakage in the chest... and then figured, okay, they must know something I don't! LOL So funny that the AOV was a mistake and they were just standard Blues. That really threw me.

I woud be livid if a bird of mine died because of a show!! Holy chrome! I think if I was ever going to do it, I'd first have my birds on a preventive of Baytril and a large plexiglass cage only open to the top with filter paper on top from Horizon!! My word, what a mess!!!

I'm glad to hear that you love Butch as much as I loved his papa. I hope he clears up quickly for you. I generally pack a bumblefoot with ointment, gauze it, then vetwrap it. I don't open it to look but once a week, and they usually heal up really nicely. We have Honey Locusts, and that works great for predator prevention, but I have to be ultra diligent about thorn cleanup or bumblefoot abounds...

Good to know about the bumblefoot!

I don't know why she died. She was fine thru Sunday. The woman who called said she was told she seemed off Monday, they pulled her, put her under a heat lamp (???) and a couple hours later, she was dead. They didn't have any of the vets look at her or do anything else for her since they were already medicating all the water. She could have died from anything. She could have choked on a Pronto Pup stick for all I know.

My kids all know there are risks with showing. We've had birds get parasites and become ill from shows. It's like free-ranging. You do what you can to minimize the risks (treatments/quarantine/etc), but you accept some troubles and losses as part of it. That being said however, I have never before seen the type of complete disregard for standard show protocols that I've witnessed in the last few days. If a lot of birds get sick or die after the fair, I believe they are entirely to blame. Its unheard of to move birds from cages and then place other birds into those cages without fresh bedding and water. This was done repeatedly. I know for a fact they removed a sick bird and without even so much as dumping the sick birds water, they placed a healthy bird into the cage. The judge and I were stunned. He was like "double your quarantine and be ready for anything!" This is basic stuff even my 6 year old knows not to do.

BTW, when I was there and seeing your silkies, two of them were "yawning", so they were having upper respiratory distress. I saw them on Friday and then again yesterday-- on Monday. On Monday, I noticed your Blue was gone and the cage door was open. I wondered what had happened. I didn't see the blues yawning-- just the whites. Poor thing. I suppose someone could have stuck in a food that it shouldn't eat-- an M&M or who knows what. I guess just hope that is what happened vs a disease. I can not believe that they are mixing around cages like that. You know, I had thought about showing in Open, but when I talked to the judge at our last show, he said to stick to the shorter shows, that you had less chances of illness and disease. He said he was leary of the State Fair. I think that needs to change. There is no reason why it can not be a clean fair and have ethical practices in place for all situations. I will keep all of this in mind now that I am the Superintendent for our county. I have a lot to learn, but I'm pretty sure I would never have done that! It's really too bad that we don't have plexiglass between each cage anyway. That would really be the safest way to show. BTW-- I'm SO GLAD that you have popped back on here! I miss seeing you around! I'm trying to hunt down the information for the "Kansas Classic Fall Show". I have emailed the lady in charge, but have not heard back. Any idea on when it is? I want to show this year's silkies down there. Is that one you might go to, or are you done showing this year? Did you ever go to that other show we were talking about down in SE Kansas? I sure wish I could have done that and met up with you and the other people! Bummer it was on the first week of school for us. Sigh.

Good LORD who is running this mess?? I would see about letting them know they don't have a handle on it and there should be new management next time. This sounds like a nightmare. and you all know me and my OCD heebie jeebies about showing anyway...I'm going to go crawl into a hazmat suit and lay in fetal position for a bit...

LOL!!

I just went out and found one of my buff laced brahma pullets dead in the coop.

I am so sad, she was so young and beautiful, how could this even happen to such a young bird. She looked fine last night while I was out doing chores.....

Oh no, I'm soooo sorry!!

Thanks, darling! Glad to be back. No, things aren't slowing at all, and now that I'm virtual schooling 2 high schoolers, I'm even more of a strung-out wreck, but I'm trying hard to check n once in a bit. I'm heading down to Oklahoma to get some birds from Heirloom Orpingtons in the next week or so...should I check with Marc and see if he has any Whites? His are all imported from England and Belgium, and UNBELIEVABLE. I have some pics of them in my folders, listed as Heirloom Orpingtons...the whites were incredible.

I was calling it the 'FarmGirl NQB8R.' I'm soooooo going to use that on my license plate (NQB8R) so don't you dare steal it, folks! I will hunt you down if I find out you did!!

Okay, off to fight with the virtual school some more. It's been a technical challenge from the outset, because of the way we get our internet and the programming on their software has had issues this year...catching up on things like honors physics and biology when you get behind STINKS!!

I'm really glad to see you on here too! It's been way too long!! I love the license tag idea!! Don't worry, you won't have to hunt me down, it's all yours! hehe! You sound REALLY busy. Yikes!

JosieChick Our lost fair bird was one of DD's spring pullets. I'm honestly

her death had something to do with the onset of laying (an abnormality or something) vs disease. IME to date, disease usually is proceeded by at least some symptoms and you have a bit of time to at least make a treatment attempt if you want to. Sudden death around here (perfectly fine then just drops dead for no apparent reason) is usually from an injury or often happens when hitting that point of lay/hormonal shift stage. We've lost several roos over the years at just such a time.


Renee-I fully intend to report them to the KAHD if/when they return my call. It's the guy in charge who is doing it and everyone else defers to him. It's practices like that, that cause outbreaks and hopefully they can get that across to him.

DD is happy that it's one of her untried pullets vs one of her good hens. The kids know that symptoms during quarantine is going to get their bird culled and they might lose one or worst case two. It's not a given that your bird will contract anything, even if the bird in the next cage is ill. When you start swapping them out so they are sharing the infected litter and waterers though.........

If I have a cold and we sit beside each other, yet never touch, you're not likely to get sick. If I'm sick and we share a drink, you'll likely come down with the same thing.

What is the KAHD?

I normally only go once a year, but he wanted me to come back in 6 mo. this time, I'm trying a new medication & he's talking about maybe putting me in a medical trial too, we'll see. I didn't get to meet the gal either with the little buck rabbit I wanted, she sold it to someone else when she knew I was coming up & I was planning to make arrangements to meet her, it made me angry. So now I'm in search of another buck for breeding, grrrr.


I was out looking at my little Swedish Flower Hen chicks earlier & I have several that are developing crests, they're so cute! I have one non-crested one that I think is really going to be pretty too, it's white with all the colors of spots on it. I keep forgetting to go out there with my camera & take some new pics.

I hope the new med works for you! I'm sorry about the buck, what a bummer. Take some pics, I want to see those crests and beautiful colors!

Not to mention she was a fifty dollar purchase just 5 weeks ago.
I haven't the foggiest what happened. She seemed fine the other night, out with the others pecking and scratching. So frustrating.

oh so sad!!!

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cute new ducky babies!

http://www.vet.k-state.edu/depts/dmp/service/pathology/necropsy.htm tells about their process, and https://www.vet.k-state.edu/depts/dmp/service/diagfeeschedule/DiagFeeSchedule.aspx?Category=Necropsy gives you the details for the costs. Generally if you write out lots of details on the form (click on the necropsy name on the left in the price list for the form) they will be able to do the determining for you of what is necessary, and they will call you to let you choose whether they should progress or not. You MUST tell them to call you and put your number in the comments. I've found them to be immensely helpful and able to make the most with the least fees. I've fortunately never had a contagion be my issue, but things like internal fracture (from a fall) or yolk peritonitis, etc.

Thanks for the link! I was wondering too!!!

 

[Hawkeye95]

Avery, I don't know if you buy started birds or not, and I don't blame you if you don't! But I have a Blue Partridge that I wound up with accidentally. She hatched out of my BBS colors! (about 3.5 months old) I contacted the seller and she said the egg must have made it's way from her project pen into my shipment. But I have no use for her. Do you know of anyone working with this color? She's really pretty, but I have no use for her. I hate to see her just become a backyard layer. I should post a picture of her. I think I have a chick picture of her-- before she filled in. Okay-- just hunted and found one of her from a few weeks ago: (just to give you an idea) I need to take a more recent pic of her now anyway so I can post her and sell her.