Consolidated Kansas

[michelleml]

Maiden cute chicks congrats
Dans I hope your hand is better today. If I was closer I would help you out

 

[mstng67]

Danz, hope you are doing better today.

 

[Trish44]

I just attended the first ever Cream Legbar Club meeting online, it was the coolest thing ever! I encourage anybody who has or plans to have Cream Legbars to join the club so we can promote the breed in the US & improve our birds. Here is a link to the enrollment form: https://sites.google.com/site/creamlegbarclublaunch/how-do-i-join/cream-legbar-club-enrollment-form. This site is a temporary web site, there is work being done on the permanent site & I'll have a link when that is done. What I got from the meeting is that our Standards in the US will be following fairly closely the UK Standards, so if you have read those ours will be almost the same. I'm sure those things will be posted on the new site when it's up. There are a lot of committees that need volunteers to help with various things in the club, so if you're interested I'm sure they wouldn't turn you down. You do have to be a full member to be able to serve on a committee. I'm really excited to be a part of getting the Cream Legbar breed accepted in the US, it will take time, but it should be fun. Emily Evans Schnee is the regional director for our area & she is on Facebook & is also a member on the Kansas Poultry Swap, so you can contact her with any questions you might have.

 

[Hawkeye95]

11 out of 20 hatched on my first hatch in a new incubator, not bad odds


Here are my 3 mille fleur duccle/golden sebrite chicks

Very cute!!

Cute chicks!

Well I wasn't going to incubate or hatch any chicks till at least March, but.... Well someone wanted to buy hatching eggs from me, Wheaten Ameraucanas & after I collected them the gal backed out. Those eggs are just beautiful blue eggs, so I just couldn't bring myself to feed them to the dogs, just couldn't.

Oh by the way, if anybody wants to be added to the breeders list on the Kansas Poultry Swap that I just posted, send me a PM on there with your info, breeds, business name if you have one, & location & I'll add you. It will be a good resource once we get it going for people to find the breeds they want. I'm kind of excited about it!

I agree- everyone is jumping the gun on this hatching and getting chicks right now! TOO COLD!! I certainly will not be doing any hatching until it starts to look like Spring is here! Glad you got your brooder built. Going to PM you since I'll always have pet quality and breeder birds available.

So I am guessing that any of the lemon lavender mixes will be lemon then? That makes sense. I had some with strange color patterns hatch last night. A mystery. Could be the effects of the lavender and lemon I guess. I wonder if the lavender they mention here is the same as BBS or if it is lavender as in self blue? True lavender orpingtons are actually self blue.

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Hey Kansas kid. Good to see you here. It's been a long time. I bought my first Mandarins from you. I wish I was closer, I'd buy your Sebbies in a minute. I'd like to add some different blood lines to the ones I have. Any idea what sex they are? If you know of anyone traveling north and west of you like maybe to Iola or somewhere let me know and I would buy them.

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Congrats Maidenwolf! They are cute chicks. Great first hatch in that new bator.
Well as if my plate wasn't full enough today I managed to make my day turn into a total mess. When I go get a load of feed, I put a tarp down to wrap around the load, and I have 4 old tires that I take with me to throw on top of the tarp to keep the wind from blowing the feed out. I was loading up the truck to go to the coop and lost hold on one of the tires. It fell on my right hand that is all metal and screws and fused. I heard something snap as it pinned it against the side of the truck and I went to my knees in pain. I was running to the last minute anyway. So I jumped in the truck and tried to lift my box of eggs off the console to the passenger seat. When I did my wrist couldn't support it and the box fell breaking a bunch of eggs and dumping them all over. I couldn't open the passenger door because there were eggs laying against it. So one by one I picked them up and either tossed them out into the driveway or put them back in the box. I finally got what I had in tact loaded back up and headed for the coop. By that time my hand was starting to swell.
I called the local orthopedic surgeon who had referred me on to the hand surgery specialist in Wichita. I got a recording. I got my feed loaded and then headed back the other way to Burlington. The nurse called me back and said the doctor wasn't seeing patients but was in surgery. She called the regular doctor I see for minor stuff when I don't want to go out of town to see my primary physician. They were full up but said they would try to work me in. So after I got to town I went out there and the first thing they did was send me to exray. The people back there weren't aware of my metal and I could here them making exclamations. I said I wear my jewelry inside! They said they had never seen anything like that before. They asked how I moved my wrist. I just said it doesn't move. I move at the elbow.
They carried the exrays back to the doctors office with me in tow. This doctor also doesn't have all my history, took me back and had me look at the exrays. Luckily nothing was broken. He said it probably jerked one of tendons, and since they wouldn't normally move it would cause severe pain and swelling. He said it is a good thing I didn't break any thing because it is obvious I'd been through enough with that wrist and hand. Another surgery wouldn't be fair. He said he would put it in a splint. Because I already have the metal in there screwed into all my bones nothing is going to move. I said the splint would just get in my way. So I am to put ice on it for a few days....and try not to hurt myself again.
Well all that cost me a couple extra hours I hadn't planned on. I went to see my Dad, and my sister came by so at least I got a chance to visit for awhile. Then I was back on the road again. I haven't figured out how I will shovel my feed off. I tried to load the FF into the wheel barrow but couldn't hold it up. And using just my left hand made it tip. So I had to go to every stinking pen to feed bucket by bucket. Then I had to do the same with water. The FF was freezing before I could get it out of the buckets. It all reminded me of how I had felt so handicapped when I had this stupid arm in a cast for over 3 years.
It does feel somewhat better now than it did. So hopefully it will get well fast. I can't afford to be without one of my hands for very long. DH has so little time off for a while so he isn't going to be able to help much. He leaves and comes home in the dark.
Just one more example of what I klutz I am!!! Duh!

Lavender and blue are not the same thing, I wish they didn't even call them Self-Blue, it's so confusing and I think people think that lavender can be mixed with BBS, and they certainly should not be. 'Lav' (lavender) and 'Bl' (blue) are completely different genes. Two copies of Bl give you splash, and two copies of Lav give you lavender (self blue). But if you refer back to the chart, you can bring in a pure black to get your splits (for lav) which you can then breed back to Lavender to get lavender again. Breeding those blacks split to Lav back to black will give you once again 100% black-- and won't be split anymore.
WOW-- you really did yourself in with that accident! I was just cringing and thinking of the horrible pain you are in. I'm so, so, so sorry about your injury and not good timing with it being winter and our joints not wanting to work right because of the cold anyway. Sucks. And you mentioned your DH working the extra long hours-- so I don't know what you're going to do. I feel terrible for you.


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So I'm a bit disappointed this morning. I made up a bunch of scrambled eggs. I had been collecting silkie eggs that I wanted to check for fertility. I have my black boy in the girl pen and just curious to know if he's old enough to be doing his job or knows what the heck he is doing, or if he is a "natural breeder". Like cochins--- Silkies have a lot of issues about being natural breeders because of the extra fluff and cushion in the rear, and as some of you recall last year, I had to AI ALL of my birds! that sucked! My rooster has been in the girl pen for about 2 months now, and I cracked open all of the eggs that came out of that pen and NONE of them were fertile! Sigh. I know he's young, but he's certainly old enough to be breeding by now. I got him as a 6 month old boy, and that was in the Fall-- so I'm guessing he is about 9 months old. I hope it's just because he's cold and isn't in the mood lately because it's winter.. That's a good excuse for a chicken, riiiiight???

I think I see a lot more AI in my future this Spring. Shoot. My other boys are WAY fluffier than he is. It's not looking good.

 

[chicken danz]

New internet device is up and running. Yay! Trish I just got around to joining. I decided I had put it off long enough. I went ahead and became a full member so I can vote. I'll just have to do some more reading later I guess.
My wrist/hand is much better today. As soon as the soreness goes out I'll be good as new. I've got about $200,000 tied up in this stupid thing. I probably over-reacted to it but when the doctors tell you that if you mess it up there is nothing left to fix it sure gets your attention.
I swear I posted earlier this morning but it's not showing up. I had one of my dog buyers buy a dog this week so I am out a sale. So I need to get serious about getting some buyers. I would have never planned pups for this time when I am so busy but my dumb dog had other ideas. Oh Fluff is going to go see the vet in the near future so we don't have any more unplanned pregnancies. I'll have to find another male in a year or so to breed Cloud back to.
Yay! Mammahen is coming this afternoon. I am happy. Her DH and a couple of her girls have been here but not her before. She's taking the rooster I posted pictures of a while back and some eggs to hatch.
I think I've gotten almost all my stuff in to file taxes. I still have one more form to get then I can get them done. I can definitely use the funds.
I've also got to start figuring out where I am going to house my new birds next week. I am so done with this stinking cold weather.

 

[chicken danz]

Aw hawkeye that sucks!! Maybe the cold is just too much for him and he'll come around. But you'd think he'd be fertile by now. Are the girls previously proven?
I agree on the hatching thing and I am trying very hard not to start hatching too early. I know I miss sales when people are rushing to order chicks but in reality it is too cold for them to be shipped right now. I am of course test hatching but I don't know what to do with the chicks I have hatched other than to just raise them as layers.
I had by the way one chick die of pasty butt this morning. I hadn't been taking the time to watch them carefully. It came from the mixed orpington eggs. It was about a week old so it has some wing feathers. It appeared almost solid white (which wouldn't be unusual for a lemon cuckoo cockerel - they are much lighter than the pullets when hatched.) however when I examined it's wings it looked like it had some lavender barring on them. That made me really curious. Would it be possible for a lemon cuckoo crossed with a lavender (self blue) to produce a lavender barred offspring? I think that would be a very unique bird.
Here is another question I have for chicken genetics. If I were to use a white Orpington with dominant white and breed it to a lavender orpington or lemon cuckoo orpington would it be possible for the offspring's offspring to produce a light colored lemon or lavender if bred back to a non-split cuckoo or lavender? I had looked up genetics and understood that dominant white will only produce white. But I do know that it is necessary in order to maintain good quality in orpingtons that they need to be bred back to white or black occasionally. So this confuses me. If white produced white always surely there has to be a way to get back the colors. It's all so contradictory.
And the other thing that confuses me is that white orpingtons are not all white chicks. They have lavender or grey colored markings randomly but grow in white feathers. Strange huh?
Wish I understood all the genetics. I was a biology major when I first started college, before going into law enforcement. I thought I had genetics down to a T but that has been some 40 years ago and we never studied chicken genetics.
Thank Heavens! I would probably have messed up my GPA big time.

 

[Trish44]

Danz, I'm glad you joined the Cream Legbar club, I wish you could have been at the meeting this morning, it was really interesting & for the most part it went off with few glitches. That's the first time I have ever attended an online meeting before & I wasn't sure what my internet connection would do, but it went fine. I chose not to speak out loud, but to chat instead as did a lot of other people. I have a web cam, but haven't installed it & honestly I didn't like staring at other people looking at their cameras, there were 3 of those. Some people attended by phone so they could hear if they didn't have the proper internet connection, so that part was a little strange. We did have a fairly good showing for the first meeting though. You will get emails if you have joined now to include links to member only sites. There is a lot of work still to be done on getting things set up, but it's all very exciting! I'm glad your hand if better by the way, be careful!

 

[chicken danz]

So did you live chat or type? I don't have a microphone any more. I have no desire to talk. I do have a camera on my notebook but have never used it. Don't want to. I haven't really researched the English standard. Was there discussion about the red, we have on our birds? I guess since I paid for it I'll try it for a year and see what happens. Mine are still too young to lay so they have a lot more growing and feathering to do.
Could someone who has an ecoglow 20 or ecoglow 50 look at the transformer that you plug in and see how many mA or A it say it uses. I am trying to figure out actual wattage that would be used for these. I know they list watts but there is a difference in how many watts you actually use depending on how many amps are used at what voltage. I'm still trying to figure out what is the cheaper unit to run out of the many types of heat available.

 

[maidenwolfx80]

Wow Danz I am sorry about your hand. Ouch!
I had a chick hatch out too quick and had unabsorbed yolk sack. I didnt think it would make it but it absorbed and got up. It is pretty wobbly and has the leftovers dried up on its bottom and I dont know what to do about it. It otherwise just looks weak and is trying really hard to stay steady and move around. Any suggestions or advice?

 

[sarajoy]

Oh Chickendanz - OUCH.... I'm thankful you don't need surgery, but such pain makes it difficult to keep up with everything else that needs being done. Take care. Sara